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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.
I just bought DAK2 in shrink. So cool ! But will I ever play it ?

I sold mine last year for 4 times what I paid for it, several years earlier. Don't break the shrinkwrap unless you are really going to play it!

That's the drawback of buying out of print games in shrink ! I want to open it up and check it out but breaking the shrink is really gonna cost me. Ack ! Buy another punched and played copy ? Hrrm...

I normally play most of mine.....So a lost there.....but you'll still get your money back in most cases.

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.
I just bought DAK2 in shrink. So cool ! But will I ever play it ?

I sold mine last year for 4 times what I paid for it, several years earlier. Don't break the shrinkwrap unless you are really going to play it!

That's the drawback of buying out of print games in shrink ! I want to open it up and check it out but breaking the shrink is really gonna cost me. Ack ! Buy another punched and played copy ? Hrrm...

One thing that is nice about solitaire boardgames is that they allow to do something interesting during the time away from the computer.

A single color with a very special undetailed boards and counters, and other audio and animation, and rich detail of the circuit board and a very clever counter, I would like.

ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89

I normally play most of mine.....So a lost there.....but you'll still get your money back in most cases.

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

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I sold mine last year for 4 times what I paid for it, several years earlier. Don't break the shrinkwrap unless you are really going to play it!

That's the drawback of buying out of print games in shrink ! I want to open it up and check it out but breaking the shrink is really gonna cost me. Ack ! Buy another punched and played copy ? Hrrm...

Go buy a shrink wrap machine (they aren't that expensive) and rewrap them. I used to buy board games from "Boardroom Games" in Indianapolis, and my friend who owned the place took me to his back room and showed me how he re-shrink wrapped the games that people opened to look at. People always picked up the shrink wrapped boxes over the ones that were open, never realizing that the "mint" copy they were buying was re-wrapped.

Actually, I wonder how many collectors are out there with shrink-wrapped boxes of blank cardboard or paper in them LOL. It could be quite a racket selling the box and keeping the game.

But then, I'll never understand the mentality of buying a game and then never opening it to look at the maps, read the manual, smell the counters [:D] To my mind, any game sold used should be opened for inspection before the deal is done. If a game is in perfect condition, unpunched, and complete it is "mint" to me, any requirement for shrink wrap is, quite frankly, stupid since it is so easy to re-wrap something.

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn


But then, I'll never understand the mentality of buying a game and then never opening it to look at the maps, read the manual, smell the counters [:D] To my mind, any game sold used should be opened for inspection before the deal is done. If a game is in perfect condition, unpunched, and complete it is "mint" to me, any requirement for shrink wrap is, quite frankly, stupid since it is so easy to re-wrap something.

I got in a row with an ebay seller once over this "shrink-wrap" deal. I received the game, opened it up, and discovered that everything inside was some sort of counterfeit, or another. The seller was actually in the counter-making business, BTW. All the charts and other paper goods were done on a copying machine. When I fussed about it, the jerk claimed that he had no way of knowing because it was "new" and he couldn't examine the contents as it was shrink-wrapped. Eventually, I got my money back, but not until I posted a blistering review regarding the purchase. Caveat emptor!

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn


But then, I'll never understand the mentality of buying a game and then never opening it to look at the maps, read the manual, smell the counters [:D] To my mind, any game sold used should be opened for inspection before the deal is done. If a game is in perfect condition, unpunched, and complete it is "mint" to me, any requirement for shrink wrap is, quite frankly, stupid since it is so easy to re-wrap something.

I got in a row with an ebay seller once over this "shrink-wrap" deal. I received the game, opened it up, and discovered that everything inside was some sort of counterfeit, or another. The seller was actually in the counter-making business, BTW. All the charts and other paper goods were done on a copying machine. When I fussed about it, the jerk claimed that he had no way of knowing because it was "new" and he couldn't examine the contents as it was shrink-wrapped. Eventually, I got my money back, but not until I posted a blistering review regarding the purchase. Caveat emptor!

Also, believe it or not, new shrikwrap isn't like old shrinkwrap. In the old old days, is was more brittle and it becomes a bit hazy over time. New shrikwrap is pliable and completely transparent.

But having said that there isn't much to protect you from fraud, as POE points out it's very much possible to fake it all and hope that nobody breaks the wrap.

It's a funny compulsion of mine, I don't understand it really. I do fully intend to play everything I buy but at the same time I don't want to completely ruin the value of the item. especially the older out of print stuff the that only gets more valuable with time.

World in Flames remains my favorite WWII boardgame by far. Anyone who wishes to graduate from short term gaming should give it a shot. Once you go WiF, you'll never go back! [:'(]

ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

World in Flames remains my favorite WWII boardgame by far. Anyone who wishes to graduate from short term gaming should give it a shot. Once you go WiF, you'll never go back! [:'(]

And, your point is, within the context of the thread topic?[&:]

ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Thanks for the info.

Here in Poland we only monster games with about 150-250 counters per side, which kinda put me off from getting into the hobby.
Which kinda sucks as a game like this:

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/66985/polska-1939

Or this:

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29627/grunwald-1410

Or this:
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/93353/borodino-1812

Costs 55PLN (16$), which would be pretty affordable to me. *sigh*

I own the first two.....There is no way you could conceivably consider these "monster" games......

I love the look of the latest solitiare U Boat game...Steel Wolves...expnsive but a game I'd like to own. I'd alos like to have the solitiare D Day Omaha game...rave reviews that one.

I do own a monster game. Battle for Normandy GMT games. All I do is look at the lovely counters!!

I also have a DVG solitiare game Frontline D Day. Haven't played it yet. Looks good but I may end up selling it off.

Fields of Fire is a game I also like the look of. Though you need the second edition rulebook as the first edition was slated for being very poor.

I still didn't manage to play Luftschiff.

And, your point is, within the context of the thread topic?

To recruit opponents for World in Flames either on Vassal or the boardgame.

ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

And, your point is, within the context of the thread topic?

To recruit opponents for World in Flames either on Vassal or the boardgame.

Any interest in the interminably delayed, Matrix computerized edition?[&:]

ORIGINAL: wodin

I love the look of the latest solitiare U Boat game...Steel Wolves...expnsive but a game I'd like to own. I'd alos like to have the solitiare D Day Omaha game...rave reviews that one.

That one's pulling in a pretty penny on Ferrengi-bay these days... makes me glad I never got around to it and left it in shrinkwrap.

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ORIGINAL: wodin

I love the look of the latest solitiare U Boat game...Steel Wolves...expnsive but a game I'd like to own. I'd alos like to have the solitiare D Day Omaha game...rave reviews that one.

That one's pulling in a pretty penny on Ferrengi-bay these days... makes me glad I never got around to it and left it in shrinkwrap.

You might want to filter through the player evaluations/reviews at BGG. In stark contrast to Silent War, I recall comments that the game is hopelessly unbalanced. Of course, that's just from memory. One way, or the other, check out the player reviews before you plonk down your $$$!

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

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ORIGINAL: wodin
I love the look of the latest solitiare U Boat game...Steel Wolves...expnsive but a game I'd like to own. I'd alos like to have the solitiare D Day Omaha game...rave reviews that one.

That one's pulling in a pretty penny on Ferrengi-bay these days... makes me glad I never got around to it and left it in shrinkwrap.

You might want to filter through the player evaluations/reviews at BGG. In stark contrast to Silent War, I recall comments that the game is hopelessly unbalanced. Of course, that's just from memory. One way, or the other, check out the player reviews before you plonk down your $$$!

Actually, _I_ might want to edit text I've quoted better. I was referring to D-Day at Omaha. Which is now pulling in larger amounts of money on Ferrengi-bay than Steel Wolves' MSRP.

As to Steel Wolves (which I still want in spite of _any_ negative reviews, valid or not), there is always the lighter alternative of DVG's U-Boat Leader. (another I've had for a couple weeks, but haven't delved into yet).

Any interest in the interminably delayed, Matrix computerized edition?

Ill buy it when it comes out and I believe they will eventually finish it. In the meantime though there are equally as rewarding options.

I'm waiting on Conflict of heroes PC version...but still no news at all...nothing...very very odd indeed.

I am waiting on the remake of Hermans Pacific War.....looks like Multiman games may reprint(version two) it in the future.  Probley awhile out though.