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RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 4:05 pm
by Hermann
ive generally got 6 or 8 oing at any one time. a lot of guys uit sometimes I do when r/l gets in the way - such as fighting fires or driving trucks cross country - takes you out of the loop for months at a time. when a games hopeless I retire usually around turn 60, sometimes the panzerballers force an end by turn 20
I think ive got 8 going right now averaging 100 turns in but im working for myself atm and the business is just starting so ive time on my hands.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 4:07 pm
by EwaldvonKleist
Wow, thats a lot of experience. How long do you usually need on one turn for Germans/Soviets, say during Operation Barbarossa Turn 1-17?
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:21 pm
by Hermann
20 minutes to 2 hours depending on the opponent
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:21 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
If two top level players play against each other, I have no idea what would happen.
Would be really interesting to follow AARs Hardluck vs. Mktours vs. MichealT or vs. some other good Players like VigaBrand and Pelton so we can found fan clubs
I have played 2 of the four mentioned in this post

I personally feel a game with Mktours would be hair raising for sure. Most of his posts are from a few years ago and he is always thinking outside the box which would keep any opponent on their toes. Mktours would have done nothing but improve upon his strats. I'm sure we will all meet in WiTE2 and there are a great many really good players than those just mentioned above. I personally have always consider myself mediocre at best at WiTE.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:39 am
by EwaldvonKleist
ORIGINAL: Hermann
20 minutes to 2 hours depending on the opponent
I can't do a satisfying turn 1-17 for both sides below at least 3 hours, often 4-5. I lack practice but I need a lot of time to optimize my path of attacks (of course no reloading, just counting hexagons/MPs and optimizing C&C and all that stuff). But I am slower than others in most things.
I have played 2 of the four mentioned in this post

I personally feel a game with Mktours would be hair raising for sure. Most of his posts are from a few years ago and he is always thinking outside the box which would keep any opponent on their toes. Mktours would have done nothing but improve upon his strats. I'm sure we will all meet in WiTE2 and there are a great many really good players than those just mentioned above. I personally have always consider myself mediocre at best at WiTE.
Right but vs. VigaBrand you did not use the Moscow first rush strategy and iIrc VB was confident to reach the winter. Is there an AAR of the game vs. Pelton?
For a mediocre player you are doing surprisingly good. One could be lead to believe you are very good player

RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:59 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
ORIGINAL: Hermann
20 minutes to 2 hours depending on the opponent
I can't do a satisfying turn 1-17 for both sides below at least 3 hours, often 4-5. I lack practice but I need a lot of time to optimize my path of attacks (of course no reloading, just counting hexagons/MPs and optimizing C&C and all that stuff). But I am slower than others in most things.
I have played 2 of the four mentioned in this post

I personally feel a game with Mktours would be hair raising for sure. Most of his posts are from a few years ago and he is always thinking outside the box which would keep any opponent on their toes. Mktours would have done nothing but improve upon his strats. I'm sure we will all meet in WiTE2 and there are a great many really good players than those just mentioned above. I personally have always consider myself mediocre at best at WiTE.
Right but vs. VigaBrand you did not use the Moscow first rush strategy and iIrc VB was confident to reach the winter. Is there an AAR of the game vs. Pelton?
For a mediocre player you are doing surprisingly good. One could be lead to believe you are very good player
I will post a reply in the War Room to this since I don't want to distract from Dinglir's nice AAR write up

RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:59 am
by lowsugar
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
I lack practice but I need a lot of time to optimize my path of attacks (of course no reloading, just counting hexagons/MPs and optimizing C&C and all that stuff). But I am slower than others in most things
Why just not play whithout movement fog of war? This counting takes a lot of time.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:25 pm
by Dinglir
Turn twentyfour.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:57 pm
by EwaldvonKleist
Its Soviet OOB porn
(you should classify this as mature content).
And German artillery numbers seem to be very low.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:44 pm
by Dinglir
Turn twentyfive.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:31 am
by EwaldvonKleist
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
Evacuation of industries when no railroad are available.. (Like my Odessa). Still need Railroad capacity. (And double coast if adjacent to ennemy, so i will not evacuate it).
It is more an exploit than a planned feature in my opinion.
I have run a test.
You can evacuate industries from harbours. However, not from cities connected by an inactive rail with an harbour so it doesn't help at Leningrad.
Does this fit with your experience Stelteck?
I don't consider this to be an exploit. If the red navy can evacuate 10s of thousands of troops, why not key parts of factories? So IMO there is nothing to be fixed.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:35 am
by Stelteck
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
Evacuation of industries when no railroad are available.. (Like my Odessa). Still need Railroad capacity. (And double coast if adjacent to ennemy, so i will not evacuate it).
It is more an exploit than a planned feature in my opinion.
I have run a test.
You can evacuate industries from harbours. However, not from cities connected by an inactive rail with an harbour so it doesn't help at Leningrad.
Does this fit with your experience Stelteck?
I don't consider this to be an exploit. If the red navy can evacuate 10s of thousands of troops, why not key parts of factories? So IMO there is nothing to be fixed.
Yes it is fitting my experience. Not a bug but interesting to know.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:42 am
by Telemecus
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
Evacuation of industries when no railroad are available.. (Like my Odessa). Still need Railroad capacity. (And double coast if adjacent to ennemy, so i will not evacuate it).
It is more an exploit than a planned feature in my opinion.
I have run a test.
You can evacuate industries from harbours. However, not from cities connected by an inactive rail with an harbour so it doesn't help at Leningrad.
Does this fit with your experience Stelteck?
I don't consider this to be an exploit. If the red navy can evacuate 10s of thousands of troops, why not key parts of factories? So IMO there is nothing to be fixed.
I agree it should not be an exploit - but needs to be fixed to not be a rail cap deduction if just port to port
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:03 pm
by Dinglir
Turn twentysix.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:08 pm
by Dinglir
Turn twentyseven.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:27 pm
by EwaldvonKleist
End of turn at Leningrad is missing?
Thats a lot of pocketed Germans!
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:31 pm
by M60A3TTS
In my game with bigbaba, we're close to the same turn. Leningrad is cut off, but I'm flying in about 300 tons of supplies each week to keep the army fighting.
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:44 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Dinglir
Turn twentyseven.
Dinglir, congrats on your turn 27.
Herman you may need a few cans of this to help with the Soviet infestation.

RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:27 am
by Dinglir
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
End of turn at Leningrad is missing?
My bad.
It seems I have forgotten to make a screendump for this.
As I remember, the front in this area does not change significantly during the German phase of turn 28, so you will see it by then (the best I can offer).
RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome
Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:34 pm
by Dinglir
Turn twentyeight.