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You can also see the green eared panzer corps full of fuel is swapping out to re-fuel than tanks.

ORIGINAL: chaos45

HLYA- I dont think im real lucky and yes in our current turn he is across at Kerch and on the way to Novorossky...will see if he takes it but with the lack of skill my troops apparently have i dont have high hopes my men will hold out lol.

The southern front is just frankly to much of a secondary front to send elite units to this early in the game and the new units which basically dont gain experience short of being wiped out are about pointless roadblocks to throw at the germans- basically they are only good to bleed off MP.

Its one reason I strongly feel something needs to be done to slow the germans rolls across the south...is pretty ridiculously ahead of historical IMO...even at Moscow German supply seems abit to good to quickly. Im sure Beender is pulling alot of tricks to milk the supply for all its worth as well which is a hats off to his logistics management.

EWK- Daring raid or no.....its because the soviets are so pathetic you virtually have nothing to fear as a German player once you pull off the super lvov. There arent enough soviet units of any skill to challenge you and you can just hasty attack them out of the way. The experience drop to 1 per turn was a huge dis-service to soviet players...as even units sitting around training for a month or two get no appreciable skill increase to increase CV. An its not like a move from 1 or less CV to 2 or less CV is exactly massive as is.........it just means the germans might actually have to attack once in awhile instead of hasty attack everything esp in the south.....also maybe im wrong on the HQ swaps as I dont get the full picture just what my recon shows me lol.

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
The good note is that the Germans have committed a PZ & Moto to this. IMO this is great for the Soviets, very bad for the Germans. The supply past Kerch is extremely difficult unless you can link up through Rostov & normally there just isn't enough time in 41. After going across Kerch you "HAVE" to take Novorossky as the Germans otherwise in my opinion the Crimea is a waste of Panzer/Moto forces. But that is just me.

ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

Being soldier in Beender's leading divisions for sure is no pleasant experience, first driven to full exhaustion, then starving 100 miles away from friendly lines with cossacks blocking the retreat. You get 10/10 in the category "daring raid".

ORIGINAL: beender

ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

Being soldier in Beender's leading divisions for sure is no pleasant experience, first driven to full exhaustion, then starving 100 miles away from friendly lines with cossacks blocking the retreat. You get 10/10 in the category "daring raid".

At least nowadays I don't leave those isolated behind and actually try to rescue them the next turn, if it's not too much trouble[:D]

These turns I do have a brave panzer facing several soviet armies alone. I happened to take a pic because it kinda illustrated the way I use them.

ORIGINAL: beender

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
The good note is that the Germans have committed a PZ & Moto to this. IMO this is great for the Soviets, very bad for the Germans. The supply past Kerch is extremely difficult unless you can link up through Rostov & normally there just isn't enough time in 41. After going across Kerch you "HAVE" to take Novorossky as the Germans otherwise in my opinion the Crimea is a waste of Panzer/Moto forces. But that is just me.

If I remember right I sent two panzers and one mot to Crimea. I needed two mobile division to clear the way and the third one to storm the fort. Passing Kerch wasn't the goal. Kerch itself was because I thought that was necessary for ports east of it to function. Still, it's a mistake because later I discovered all the other ports in south were too small to recover in time.

ORIGINAL: beender

@HardLuckYetAgain

That pic is from T13 and now the panzer is relatively safe. The mighty 30th Infantry has just arrived to its south. Soviet army were in a hurry to march rather than destroy some annoying German tanks.

What is happening is pretty much what I intended to do, as secondary objective. First one was of course to cut off all of them if soviet did not evacuate the Leningrad area. Now that they are retreating, I am content with making them take the detour and not join Moscow theater in time.

@Sammy5IsAlive

I don't know why but I have this firm impression that if I am to use any ports east of Kerch, such as Azov, I have to take and hold Kerch itself. Does this rule really exist? Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

ORIGINAL: beender

What did I say to give you that impression? I am certainly not the most experienced after several months into this six-year-old game. But I am certainly not a novice anymore since I have played so many hours lol. I never intend to hide or mislead anyone on this.

I spent a few years in the US before moving to Osaka. So not Tokyo, but close.[:'(]

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

How does Kerch work as a port? Can it link together the Black Sea and Sea of Azov zones without being on the rail net? Even if it does am I right in thinking that the German's available shipping in the Azov zone will be limited to what can be projected out of that size 3 port only?