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RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:47 pm
by DD696
It certainly is not for the good, is it? Good would have been more than 2 (one screwed up) patches since it was released. Good would have been bugs promptly corrected and patches issued. Good would have been being responsive to user questions and concerns.
Bad was what we paid for. Bad is what we get.
Worse is those unseeing individuals who think the operational art of war version V will be supported in the manner in which a game should be and that those carry forever bugs from versions 3 and 4 will ever be fixed. Buyer beware!
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:26 pm
by 76mm
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
In what way is it a conclusion? Where did I say what their actual feelings are? Just pointing out the baselessness of YOUR conclusion. No posts since 2017 sure sounds squandered to me.
Actually, calling my opinion "baseless"
is a conclusion. Projects on Kickstarter fail all the time, and people contribute to projects there in the hope that they will get a product that they want and that is not otherwise available. If people want to buy, and expect to get, a complete game, they don't contribute to Kickstarter. While I'm sure that many/most of the contributors will be disappointed if the game doesn't eventually come out, that doesn't mean that the contribution was squandered--it was an "investment" in a game project that didn't work out. To suggest otherwise is, well, nonsense.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:31 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: 76mm
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
In what way is it a conclusion? Where did I say what their actual feelings are? Just pointing out the baselessness of YOUR conclusion. No posts since 2017 sure sounds squandered to me.
Actually, calling my opinion "baseless"
is a conclusion. Projects on Kickstarter fail all the time, and people contribute to projects there in the hope that they will get a product that they want and that is not otherwise available. If people want to buy, and expect to get, a complete game, they don't contribute to Kickstarter. While I'm sure that many/most of the contributors will be disappointed if the game doesn't eventually come out, that doesn't mean that the contribution was squandered--it was an "investment" in a game project that didn't work out. To suggest otherwise is, well, nonsense.
Since it wasn't based upon any evidence from the contributors, yes, it was baseless.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:38 pm
by DD696
Hey, Bob. Obviously you cannot reply to a Marine without changing your britches. Such fear of the truth is much more than you can comprehend, eh?
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:47 pm
by Lobster
[:D]
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:40 am
by larryfulkerson
I want a divorce.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:10 am
by Simon Edmonds
But who's getting custody rights?
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:23 am
by larryfulkerson
I'm not so sure I want to have anything to do with the children.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:46 am
by Lobster
You have to know that beyatch is going to get the house right?
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:20 am
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: DD696
It certainly is not for the good, is it? Good would have been more than 2 (one screwed up) patches since it was released. Good would have been bugs promptly corrected and patches issued. Good would have been being responsive to user questions and concerns.
Bad was what we paid for. Bad is what we get.
Worse is those unseeing individuals who think the operational art of war version V will be supported in the manner in which a game should be and that those carry forever bugs from versions 3 and 4 will ever be fixed. Buyer beware!
1. Our chief programmer, Ralph Tricky, is AWOL. That's a big hit to our coding assets. Big hit to coding assets = much longer to code the same amount of code as before.
2. The update that is under development is much more ambitious than any previous update. (Something that should have been inferred from the Commander Task Force thread). Much more ambitious = much more coding required.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:42 am
by Lobster
More coding assets equals faster results. But since no one is going to ask for volunteer help there will always be a one man 'team'. Oh wait, volunteers will steal the code. Forgot that one.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:46 am
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: Lobster
More coding assets equals faster results. But since no one is going to ask for volunteer help there will always be a one man 'team'. Oh wait, volunteers will steal the code. Forgot that one.
I've pointed out the dificulties Matrix faces in that regard. You live in a fantasy world and choose to ignore them.
But, Matrix can do whatever they want. I have no control one way or the other.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:09 pm
by Lobster
You could ask for help. Volunteer or otherwise. Have you done that?
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:13 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: Lobster
You could ask for help. Volunteer or otherwise. Have you done that?
That's up to Matrix. They're the only ones that know the full situation.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:18 pm
by Lobster
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: Lobster
You could ask for help. Volunteer or otherwise. Have you done that?
That's up to Matrix. They're the only ones that know the full situation.
You have not asked for help. I thought as much.
We are doomed.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:29 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: Lobster
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: Lobster
You could ask for help. Volunteer or otherwise. Have you done that?
That's up to Matrix. They're the only ones that know the full situation.
You have not asked for help. I thought as much.
We are doomed.
Yes. Matrix is totaly ignorant of all things TOAW.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:19 pm
by parmenio
ORIGINAL: cathar1244
I was hasty with that comment. The blog hadn't updated since then, but I found other comments from the developer from last year. Apparently he had a round with cancer and the fellow doing the non-AI programming was also sick for a while.
But, yeah, one hopes that a product of some kind is eventually released. The map editor looks interesting.
Note this effort is for 17-18-19 century battles.
Cheers
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: cathar1244
https://www.general-staff.com/about/
This looked promising, but no updates since 2017, it seems. It was a project by the guy who programmed Universal Military Simulator I and II way back when.
Cheers
Note that they solicited donations to kickstart it. Got over $16K. Wonder how those folks feel now?
This is a two-man band and Andy O'Neill has a full-time job other than working on the General Staff game. I've been following this for over 12 months... blog and the Grogheads forum where the developer posts:
http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?board=87.0
Remember when Ralph used to *actually* *post* *updates* ....
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:21 pm
by Lobster
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: Lobster
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
That's up to Matrix. They're the only ones that know the full situation.
You have not asked for help. I thought as much.
We are doomed.
Yes. Matrix is totaly ignorant of all things TOAW.
That or doesn't care.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:51 pm
by 76mm
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
Since it wasn't based upon any evidence from the contributors, yes, it was baseless.
Wasn't based upon any evidence from the contributors? You mean other than all of the contributor comments on the Kickstarter project? Where I didn't see any contributors lamenting their "squandered" contribution? Game development is continuing, and from what I can see, the contributors are waiting patiently for further developments and updates. But other than that, right, no evidence...
[EDIT] I will add that in the kickstarter project and the forum parmenio linked, there is much more information about the development and reason for delays for that game than there is here for TOAW.
RE: Message for Ralph Tricky
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:27 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: 76mm
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
Since it wasn't based upon any evidence from the contributors, yes, it was baseless.
Wasn't based upon any evidence from the contributors? You mean other than all of the contributor comments on the Kickstarter project? Where I didn't see any contributors lamenting their "squandered" contribution? Game development is continuing, and from what I can see, the contributors are waiting patiently for further developments and updates. But other than that, right, no evidence...
[EDIT] I will add that in the kickstarter project and the forum parmenio linked, there is much more information about the development and reason for delays for that game than there is here for TOAW.
Alright. Yesterday it appeared that develpment had halted back in 2017. Now it appears it is still in active development. If you knew that yesterday, you should have said so.
We could use some of those supporters who are willing to wait over four years without getting anything but talk.