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RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:52 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Day fighters at night? I sure don't. But please continue.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:01 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Air Losses during Soviet phase
38 Minor country plane losses that will take forever to replace. Germans suffer 27.
Lost 1 plane from the bombing on the ground for a total of 5,369 Soviet planes turn 1.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:07 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Refit from last turn.
So being on a 4 Depot, on refit, with HQ, 100 prep points, and I gain a whopping 2 to my TOE total! OMG I feel great! (Sarcasm)
****You can find the last turn pictures earlier in the AAR for the before and after contrast****

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:12 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Not on refit
This unit was
not on refit, was on a 4 depot, moved, did not have 100 prep points and gained more TOE than their sister unit. (both units made all Admin rolls even before you say something)
****You can find the last turn pictures earlier in the AAR for the before and after contrast****

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:24 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
You will find this interesting. At least I did. Here is Koenigsberg at the end of Turn 1.
6,139 stored on the first turn and I set this port to (0)Zero also during Turn 1.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:28 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Koenigsberg turn 2 sees an absolute dump of 48,000+ stored at this location. Found that interesting when I had other depots in the area with number above (0)Zero but the computer decided to dump the freight here.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:38 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Danzig
1st turn I set Danzig as my level 2 Export port(picture of Danzig turn 1). I have only one export port set above 0 and that is Danzig.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:42 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Danzig
Turn 2 sees Danzig fill up rather nicely. Is my way the correct way, probably not, but it is my way of seeing things unfold.
I also only have ONE import port in the Baltic. I have a 1 for 1 relationship.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:52 pm
by Sammy5IsAlive
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Turn 2
Koenigsberg turn 2 sees an absolute dump of 48,000+ stored at this location. Found that interesting when I had other depots in the area with number above (0)Zero but the computer decided to dump the freight here.
I just had a quick look at T1 and Koenigsberg starts with 75,000 supply and 25,000 fuel stored in the city (i.e. outside of the depot system). So I guess a proportion of those stores have been converted into 'on map' freight. A brief search of the manual doesn't bring anything up about this process though.
By way of comparison Danzig only starts with 3750 supplies/5000 fuel stored in city.
It might be interesting to see if you have similar patterns at Warsaw, Krakow and Suwalki - all of which start with only 5k of supply stores but 100k+ of fuel stores.
RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:14 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Turn 2
Koenigsberg turn 2 sees an absolute dump of 48,000+ stored at this location. Found that interesting when I had other depots in the area with number above (0)Zero but the computer decided to dump the freight here.
I just had a quick look at T1 and Koenigsberg starts with 75,000 supply and 25,000 fuel stored in the city (i.e. outside of the depot system). So I guess a proportion of those stores have been converted into 'on map' freight. A brief search of the manual doesn't bring anything up about this process though.
By way of comparison Danzig only starts with 3750 supplies/5000 fuel stored in city.
It might be interesting to see if you have similar patterns at Warsaw, Krakow and Suwalki - all of which start with only 5k of supply stores but 100k+ of fuel stores.
Interesting indeed.
I checked the other cities and don't see any dump. Maybe if I set them to zero I might get a reaction ;-P
RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:54 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Axis Air Phase
I run AS (Air Superiority) in the Riga area to try and get some more A2A kills for my fighters. Never can have too many of those. Like Clockwork the Soviet wants to keep the gulf of Riga devoid of transports. So be it, I will rack up the A2A kills instead.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:56 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
End of Air Phase
Rack up 66 more A2A kills to the lose of zero fighters. On to the ground phase.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:04 am
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Ground Phase
BTW, I did not fly any Recon? Why? Because I don't need to. Can pretty much guess and/or creep forward a Division to tell where something is. So, no Recon.
Anyway, without recon I see this on the Northern Rumanian border. Interesting setup with two Mountain Divisions. Will see what I can do here with them.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:14 am
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Ground Phase
Rail in the South
I am playing the South a bit different at the moment with the FBD. I will repair to Lvov and then connect the Northern single line to Lvov coming from Zamosc. Once that is finished turn 3 the single line repair will connect up to the Rumanian border picking up the two Level 2 railyards, Stanislov & Chernovtsy. I will then go back to the dual line and continue east. The Rumanian FBD will also assist in this. A few turns from now I will bring the RAD units from up north to finish up the links into Hungary. At least that is the plan but items have a way of getting shuffled around, lol. Probably backfire on me but what the hell, going to do it anyway.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:27 am
by DeletedUser1769703214
Turn 2
Ground Phase
Intermission

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:05 am
by 56ajax
I like intermission.
@Aurelian and @Stamb
Lock HQ ; my knowledge is somewhat dated and I am only a 'dabbler' on WiTE 2 but you used to Lock HQ as a startup game setting so that every HQ that entered the game after T1 was set as Locked by default. This is probably more important to the Soviets with some many extra HQs to come.
(In WitE1 I remember finding a new HQ miles from anywhere absolutely full of support units. Lock HQ stops this happening.)
RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:35 am
by Stamb
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Turn 2
Danzig
Turn 2 sees Danzig fill up rather nicely. Is my way the correct way, probably not, but it is my way of seeing things unfold.
I also only have ONE import port in the Baltic. I have a 1 for 1 relationship.
In my game I had both Danzig and Hel as export ports, and freight was taken from Hel, not from Danzig, despite having bigger port. Maybe because Hel is just closer to import ports.
RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:45 am
by DeletedUser1769703214
ORIGINAL: 56ajax
I like intermission.
@Aurelian and @Stamb
Lock HQ ; my knowledge is somewhat dated and I am only a 'dabbler' on WiTE 2 but you used to Lock HQ as a startup game setting so that every HQ that entered the game after T1 was set as Locked by default. This is probably more important to the Soviets with some many extra HQs to come.
(In WitE1 I remember finding a new HQ miles from anywhere absolutely full of support units. Lock HQ stops this happening.)
Yes, "intermission" is nice.
RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:48 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
ORIGINAL: Stamb
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Turn 2
Danzig
Turn 2 sees Danzig fill up rather nicely. Is my way the correct way, probably not, but it is my way of seeing things unfold.
I also only have ONE import port in the Baltic. I have a 1 for 1 relationship.
In my game I had both Danzig and Hel as export ports, and freight was taken from Hel, not from Danzig, despite having bigger port. Maybe because Hel is just closer to import ports.
Any port is viable for the Germans. BUT, and this is just my thinking on the matter, is that per rule 25.4.1 titled "Moving Freight by Rail, Railyard Capacity" the 2nd paragraph from the end states the following,
"There is a 30 hex limit to how far from a unit or freight location a railyard can be in order to use its railyard for rail movement". A quick look at the map shows that Danzig is "EXACTLY" 30 hexes from both north hexes of Berlin, thus capable of using both of those railyards. Then you have Setten railyards, Poznan, and Bydgoszcz all capable of contributing their railyard capacity to move freight to just Danzig. Then Danzig can move the freight by sea or push further East where Railyard capacity starts to wane in the north. Remember Ports, like I pointed out in my previous AAR, receives freight before normal depots. Thus, I am directing supply to Danzig with the most means of moving that freight from all the level 2+ railyards to Danzig. Then from Danzig I can have the supply go by sea to Ventspills or Liepaja (and later Riga) that has more level 2 railyards to send freight into Russia OR Danzig can use its level 2 railyard to send the supply further into Russia by rail. This is the reason I pick Danzig over all other ports. I believe I have chosen correctly, only time will tell.

RE: I will show you fear in a handful of dust. HLYA (G) vs ZOVS (R)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:55 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
Just a note that Zovs and I have updated to .16
I also want to direct readers to Zovs VERY well written Soviet side to this AAR here;
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5134062