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warspite1
Demonstrably false? So you use the example of local tipping custom to evidence rudeness in conversing (by word or written form). That is not helpful and one may say disingenuous.
I have conversed with a great many on this forum, Britons, Americans, Germans, French, Japanese, Russians... the list goes on. It is not difficult to make sufficient effort to ensure that one's comments aren't seen as rude. On occasion it may not work - but that is the exception to the rule.
Having had such a wide conversation, then you certainly should have noted certain differences in conversational patterns and norms.
If you wish a direct example, consider the directness in conversation that you find common in many European cultures, which can often be perceived as being abrupt to the point of rudeness in the Anglosphere. Inverted, the tendency for the Anglosphere to prevaricate and approach topics indirectly can be perceived as dissimulation and rude as a result.
So many people find Alfred rude because... well he was, for a great many of his posts, insufferably rude.
No, Alfred was misliked because he was, with exceptional consistency, right and they were wrong.
No level of saccharin coating would have mitigated this, as you'll find those taking that view certainly lacked the maturity to accept that there might be someone out there with more insight into the topic than they possessed.
Simple. Very simple. There was no reason WHATSOEVER for Alfred to write post 2 in response to MarkShot's post 1. As said, even Lokasenna was triggered to remark upon it. It was rude, unhelpful and not a little unhinged.
I'll disagree here; the opening question, when combined with previous questions and the admission of not buying the game certainly gave an impression of being vexatious. Combined with the fact that the information itself was relatively low hanging fruit simply adds to this.
I don't doubt - as has been made clear - that Alfred felt he had grounds for doubting the quality of the video. That is not the point. The point was quite clear and quite simple. The response to Tanaka's post was succinct.
"I'm Alfred, my intellect is colossal and you? YOU are stupid. You come here to post about a video YOU thought was helpful. How dare you. It was rubbish and you are clearly unable to comprehend this simple point.
There is simply no need for it.
Now here's a question, have you ever seen Alfred chest-thumping regarding intellect? Good luck finding any.
The sentiment expressed in the initial promotion of that YouTube video series was completely out of sync with the actual quality of the content.
Alfred highlighted how newer players evidently seemed to be fooled by this, but any experienced players would be able to discern the truth.
It's a well known trend at this point that AE doesn't lend itself well to long format YouTube videos and that the quality suffers as a result.
Again, not sure if you feel the need for this sentiment to have further saccharine applied to it.
Superficial level? Well I guess it depends on what importance you place on civility and treated people with respect.
Ah, now we get at the rub of the matter. Consider telling someone that they are incorrect. How do you balance that with civility and respect?
Note the above comments on saccharine.
It's a lose/lose. Nobody likes to be told their wrong, regardless of the setting. Much easier to handwave it away as "Alfred is rude" than to have a deeper reflection that will challenge established notions about knowledge of game mechanics.
My mistake. I didn't realise that you canvassed ADM, Erik and others on that thread to ensure there were no PM's behind the scenes. Clearly you have all the facts about that thread and what transpired between all parties.
I shouldn't need to canvass anyone. See previous posts in the other thread regarding Matrix policy re: warnings. Do you see that being enacted in the thread in question?
Worth pointing out that there were others that made similar comments in the immediate aftermath of that thread.
Quite simply Alfred was never ever wrong about anything - and his subsequent comments to Erik confirm that.
This may shock the system somewhat, but there are people that think before they post online. Alfred certainly was one of those.
Can you recall an instance where Alfred was wrong? In all my years on the forum, I can recall
maybeone borderline incident involving night bombing, but even then Alfred had the correct understanding and a missing text string was the real issue.