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RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:52 pm
by Major Destruction
all of them?

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:53 pm
by Major Destruction
ORIGINAL: robot

The encyclopedia for russia has an awful lot of repeats in it.

Please be specific

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:55 pm
by Major Destruction
ORIGINAL: BruceAZ

I think there is a problem with the availability date of the German 76mm AT gun. It is showing up very early before the gun was introduced.
When was it introduced?

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:58 pm
by Major Destruction
ORIGINAL: Igor

As a personal mod for off board guns; I assume 3 minute turns, and set the ROF for the various off board guns up to 9+ (6, in the case of 203s); and use that for initial fire/pregame bombardments. Then I disable guns 3 and 4 for sustained fire. It works out pretty well, IMHO.

I like your edit. This would work in pbem too if the OOB's relected higher ROF's
Apart from the 203's and bigger guns which should not fire more than 1-2 rounds per minute.

It looks like no matter what changes are implemented, somebody will complain. At least in a pbem arena players can adapt the limitations of the game to their own abilities. This, I think, models the commander on the spot having to adapt his style to available resources.

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:19 am
by JJKettunen
ORIGINAL: Major Destruction

It looks like no matter what changes are implemented, somebody will complain.

Especially if those changes are not needed, not asked by anybody and, most importantly, have no correlation with reality (see latest "experiments" with tank data).

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:21 am
by harlekwin
ORIGINAL: Keke
ORIGINAL: Major Destruction

It looks like no matter what changes are implemented, somebody will complain.

Especially if those changes are not needed, not asked by anybody and, most importantly, have no correlation with reality (see latest "experiments" with tank data).



yup....

if people want "balance" play checkers....

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:37 am
by KG Erwin
The captured 76.2 ATGs were used as soon as the Germans got them. In 8.2 we have them available for use starting in July 1941. I don't think that's too early.
ORIGINAL: BruceAZ

I think there is a problem with the availability date of the German 76mm AT gun. It is showing up very early before the gun was introduced.

Recon
Semper Fi

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:44 pm
by Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

The captured 76.2 ATGs were used as soon as the Germans got them. In 8.2 we have them available for use starting in July 1941. I don't think that's too early.

It is.

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:14 pm
by harlekwin
ORIGINAL: Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

The captured 76.2 ATGs were used as soon as the Germans got them. In 8.2 we have them available for use starting in July 1941. I don't think that's too early.

It is.


Yeah well the Axis NEEDS to get eqpt on prototype dates while the allied get it on deploy dates....

"balance" my friend "balance"....

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:43 pm
by o4r
Did Anybody place a 1000 HP engine on that Jadgtiger. It is running like a spot car. [:@]

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:47 pm
by harlekwin
ORIGINAL: o4r

Did Anybody place a 1000 HP engine on that Jadgtiger. It is running like a spot car. [:@]



Yeah well the kittens are a marvel of superior tuetonic engineering after all.....

It is really cool considering they were notorious for going through transmissions like candy....

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:06 pm
by Igor
ORIGINAL: Major Destruction

I like your edit. This would work in pbem too if the OOB's relected higher ROF's
Apart from the 203's and bigger guns which should not fire more than 1-2 rounds per minute.
With an ROF of 6, a 203 battery *could* get off one shot every 30 seconds for a three minute turn (which is a bit much, since you're only supposed to do that for two minutes); but only uberelites can pull it off. For veteran crews, you're looking perhaps the equivalent four shells per turn per tube for the pre-game, two during sustained fire. It might actually be a bit slow; but it seems to work out (especially given ammo limits). So far I haven't applied this to heavy naval rifles (battlewagons or railroad guns); they just don't come up all that often in the life of a battalion (even one as august as our battalions).

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:51 pm
by JJKettunen
From Marauder's Arsenal:

"Finally, to help you explore some of the current 8.0 changes made, a new scenario was designed for you: The Paw of the Tiger. In this scenario, you will discover how deadly the big cats can be!"

Is this the reason why we have now Tiger Is with 16-26% more AP PEN than historically, and also with 52% more Accuracy, which is quite questionable. [:-]

Edit: I hope it's not the middle finger that little smiley is waving, lol.

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:54 pm
by harlekwin
ORIGINAL: Keke

From Marauder's Arsenal:

"Finally, to help you explore some of the current 8.0 changes made, a new scenario was designed for you: The Paw of the Tiger. In this scenario, you will discover how deadly the big cats can be!"

Is this the reason why we have now Tiger Is with 16-26% more AP PEN than historically, and also with 52% more Accuracy, which is quite questionable. [:-]



Well I am betting the Matilda would be a world beater too if I cranked up the ratings because "it just felt right"....

:)

"see just how deadly the matilda can be!"

[8|]

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:04 pm
by harlekwin
I am working on the "croissants of the Char B-1 bis" it will show you the raw power of the Char, and have some slight variations in modeling to "capture the proper spirit" of a WW2 action.....

(more to come)

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:30 pm
by FlashfyreSP
Don't forget about those "improved" Type 97 tanks the Japanese tested in the jungles...
you know, the ones with the "jungle shredder" attachment to the front (a la the hedgerow busters on the Shermans), composed of hundreds of 'used' samurai swords on a spinning drum that allowed the tank to move through the jungle at top speed AND carve a road at the same time.[X(]

And I believe they had upgunned them using some extra 88mm barrels that were shipped as a measure of good will from the ample Wehrmacht stores....[&o]

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:27 pm
by Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: harlekwin

I am working on the "croissants of the Char B-1 bis" it will show you the raw power of the Char, and have some slight variations in modeling to "capture the proper spirit" of a WW2 action.....

(more to come)

My complimentary scenario will be named "Tea of the Matilda"

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:34 pm
by harlekwin
ORIGINAL: Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: harlekwin

I am working on the "croissants of the Char B-1 bis" it will show you the raw power of the Char, and have some slight variations in modeling to "capture the proper spirit" of a WW2 action.....

(more to come)

My complimentary scenario will be named "Tea of the Matilda"


we can craft a campaign called "breakfast at tiffany's" maybe make the main force Hungarian in honor of Gavris.....

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:37 pm
by Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: harlekwin
ORIGINAL: Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: harlekwin

I am working on the "croissants of the Char B-1 bis" it will show you the raw power of the Char, and have some slight variations in modeling to "capture the proper spirit" of a WW2 action.....

(more to come)

My complimentary scenario will be named "Tea of the Matilda"


we can craft a campaign called "breakfast at tiffany's" maybe make the main force Hungarian in honor of Gavris.....

You mean fluvials w. 16 inch guns?

RE: 8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:38 pm
by harlekwin
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