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Torp bounced off the harnua without much damage at all. Dinky little warhead that it is.

As for the PI, well I've got enough of a foothold that I won't get pushed back, but I'm not likely to make any brilliantly fast gains any time soon. Raver's subs were pretty good, but it is too late to stop those ops now.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41

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ASW attack at 25,45

Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Nowaki
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio

Allied Ships
SS KXIII

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Sub attack at 29,54

Japanese Ships
AK Sagara Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O19

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 31,57

Japanese Ships
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13
AP Hikade Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AP Hokuhi Maru
AP Iwaki Maru
AP Josho Maru
AP Kaihei Maru
AP Kaika Maru
AP Kaiko Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Kaishi Maru
AP Koshu Maru #3
AP Meisho Maru
AP Meiten Maru
AP Meiu Maru
AP Mexico Maru, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Midori Maru, Shell hits 2
AP Mikage Maru #2
AK Akagane Maru

Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Shell hits 8
CL Durban

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Miri, at 31,57

Allied Ships
CL Durban
CL Dragon

Runway hits 5
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 2

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TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Makin, 85,89

TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Makin, 85,89


Japanese ground losses:
136 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 45,48

Japanese Ships
AK Takao Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sanko Maru
PC Ch 3
PC Ch 2
PC Ch 1
PC Shonan Maru #2
PC Shonan Maru #1
PC Kyo Maru #13
PC Kyo Maru #12
PC Kyo Maru #11
PC Kyo Maru #2
MSW W.18
MSW W.17
MSW W.10
MSW W.9
MSW W.8
MSW W.7

Allied Ships
SS Tarpon

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Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 5

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 12 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

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Air attack on Vigan , at 44,49


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 9
P-36A Mohawk x 20


no losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-36A Mohawk strafing at 100 feet
9 x P-26A strafing at 100 feet
2 x P-36A Mohawk strafing at 100 feet
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Air attack on 66th Chinese Corps, at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-51 Sonia x 24
Ki-15 Babs x 1

no losses


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 43,61

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 6

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 5
Hudson I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 6
Buffalo I x 8
Vildebeest IV x 7
Blenheim IV x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 1
BB Kongo
CA Takao

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 28,53


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 6


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Choko Maru
AK Hakonesan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 1


no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Genmei Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kyuma Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,48


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2
B-17C Fortress x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Shinko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 27,47


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4
Hudson I x 4


no losses

Japanese Ships
CL Yura, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13

no losses

Allied Ships
DD Barker
DD Parrott

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 47

no losses

Allied Ships
CL Danae
DD Jupiter
DD Tenedos

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 12
Ki-21 Sally x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11
Ki-21 Sally x 14
Ki-48 Lily x 15
Ki-15 Babs x 1

no losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Tuguegarao , at 46,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 27

no losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 43,61

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 5

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Hudson I x 7


no losses

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47


Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 13
Blenheim I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 1
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 1
CL Jintsu
DD Kiji

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4


no losses

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 15
Blenheim IV x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Koei Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 32,56


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Josho Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Davao at 41,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 3

no losses

no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Meiyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Tatsufuku Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
PC Shimushu

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Swordfish bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 41,49


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 9
B-17C Fortress x 4


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Meikai Maru
AP Yuzan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G4M1 Betty x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Torpedo hits 1
DD Stewart

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Barker

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Parrott
DD Barker
DD Stewart, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
G4M1 Betty x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Boise

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 9

no losses

Allied Ships
CL Danae

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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TF 62 troops unloading over beach at Macassar, 30,69

Coastal Guns at Macassar, 30,69, firing at TF 62
TF 62 troops unloading over beach at Macassar, 30,69


2141 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Saiko Maru, Shell hits 2
PC Nichi Maru #1, Shell hits 1
PC Showa Maru #3

Japanese ground losses:
647 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 21734 troops, 278 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 5316 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 374 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
531 casualties reported
Guns lost 22


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40551 troops, 462 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 13013 troops, 105 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4


Japanese ground losses:
327 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Guns lost 6


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Ground combat at Canton

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7600 troops, 111 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 29780 troops, 216 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Yenen

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 78269 troops, 940 guns, 16 vehicles

Defending force 31866 troops, 185 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
1795 casualties reported
Guns lost 40

Allied ground losses:
643 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Macassar

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 940 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3782 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Wuchow

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 579 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 23782 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
344 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Makin

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1182 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Makin base !!!

Well, this was the turn Raver decided to make a run for it. I can see the logic - better now while my betties and nells are a bit worn down rather than later. Still, The betties and nells did quite well, and caught more than a few dds and cls wandering around the place, not to mention the transports (and the lone, unescorted pgs that I 124 ambushed in the straits!).

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/11/41

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Sub attack at 47,46

Japanese Ships
AP Arizona Maru
AP Matsukawa Maru
PC Ch 32
PC Ch 18
PC Ch 17
PC Ch 16
PC Ch 15
PC Ch 14
PC Ch 13
PC Takunan Maru #5
PC Shonan Maru #17
MSW W.19
MSW W.16
MSW W.15

Allied Ships
SS Perch

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Sub attack at 42,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
PG Tulsa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Naval bombardment of Kuantan, at 24,47


Allied aircraft


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Kiji
DD Nowaki
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio
CL Jintsu
CA Atago
CA Takao
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 105

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Sub attack at 42,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 2 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Air attack on Vigan , at 44,49


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 6
P-36A Mohawk x 20


no losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-36A Mohawk strafing at 100 feet
3 x P-26A strafing at 100 feet
2 x P-36A Mohawk strafing at 100 feet
3 x P-26A strafing at 100 feet
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Air attack on 83rd Chinese Corps, at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-51 Sonia x 24
Ki-15 Babs x 1

no losses


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Davao at 41,61

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 4

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4
Blenheim I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,47


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 9
B-17C Fortress x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
CL Naka

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Yamakisan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 29,54


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 1


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kaiko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Davao at 41,61

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 3

no losses

no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Nittei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 32,71


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Tenryu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,59


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 2


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kidokawa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Nagara Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 26,50


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 29,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-21 Sally x 20

no losses

Allied Ships
DD Scout

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 29,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 18
Ki-48 Lily x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 31,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

no losses

Allied Ships
DD Thracian

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,56

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 7

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,57

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Escalante R

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,57

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 3

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Escalante R

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Masbate Island at 44,56

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 8

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 9

no losses


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Tuguegarao , at 46,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Davao at 41,61

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Davao at 41,61

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10
Blenheim IV x 4


no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 27,52


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 2


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Gosei Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 32,71


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sensan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Higashiyama Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 26,50


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Buffalo I x 3
Vildebeest IV x 5


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 3 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 26,50


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Ise

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 31,66

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 10 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Paul Jones
CL Marblehead, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Boise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Sarangami

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 45,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Taurus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Sub attack at 29,54

Japanese Ships
AP Meiten Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O19

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 46,36

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 64715 troops, 646 guns, 141 vehicles

Defending force 38003 troops, 176 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 45 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
704 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Allied ground losses:
1549 casualties reported
Guns lost 37


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40203 troops, 459 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 12759 troops, 96 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Canton

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7660 troops, 111 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 29735 troops, 211 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Yenen

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 75918 troops, 877 guns, 16 vehicles

Defending force 30999 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
1740 casualties reported
Guns lost 43

Allied ground losses:
568 casualties reported
Guns lost 6


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Ground combat at Macassar

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3769 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1716 troops, 14 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Macassar base !!!



Allied aircraft


no losses

Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wuchow

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17346 troops, 132 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 137 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 381 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Canton

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29659 troops, 206 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 31404 troops, 111 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Yenen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23735 troops, 166 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 72415 troops, 792 guns, 15 vehicles

As the allied player, you have a LOT of AKs scattered around in tinpot little ports, 4 here, 8 there along with some PGs and MSWs and they can't simply stayed tied up at the dock, you have to try and get them out from under the nose of the jap. The best tactic is to send tham out in ones and two, never more than two or they can be much more rapidly spotted. You are bound to loose a few, and now this is what banana boy is crowing about....sinking one or two Island tramp ships[8|] The big war hero !

Oh and his paras got the arse whipped at Wuchow. [:D] He is also bleeding bad at Hong Kong and will get a bloody nose in Canton in the next few days as well !

Sorry, I didn't see this, but can the Allies destroy/sabotage the oil facilities, etc. in the DEI before the Japanese capture them?

Gods I love this game [&o]
Another exciting turn flies in as the damaged Boise and her dd escorts make balikpapan (within range of about 3 squadrons of my zeros and about 5 level bomber squadrons).

The betties launched, and those in torp range put 4 through the Boise and sent her to the bottom (unfortunately, 4 hits from about 30 attempts wasn't so brilliant . . .) but the boys out of torp range doing level bombing from way up high (about 30 or 40 betties all told) were all missing of course. Except one lucky bomb aimer who put his bomb through the DD Parrott's deck armour, into her magazine, getting that fantastic message on the animation MAGAZINE BLOWS UP. So Boise and Parrott were added to the sunk ship list, as well has half a dozen fleeing transports out of PI (Ryujo only has about 12 kates and man are they having a field day. Lone transports just don't have enough flak to hurt me).

A couple of other interesting developments - Hong Kong fell with over 13000 enemy troops surrendering (lovely) and so the two large divisions there are hiking back to canton where my paratroops are enduring some rather painful bombardment from a whole bunch of chinese troops.

Although I'm smacking Raver in the north of China (yenen under siege - will probably fall in the next few turns, another chinese city below that is already mine and my troops march on two more chinese strongpoints, Raver has managed to effectively cut canton, hongkong and all the troops therin from any support - without stripping wuchow of defenders (as my poor initial wave of partroops found out - I didn't send any more after that little disaster). So if you imagine the map, Raver has cut my forces in China off between canton and Nanking. He's also done it with a big enough force that whatever I win in the north will probably just get poured down the toilet as a scramble to restore my lines. I'm guessing that he isn't going to have enough to move on Hanoi - but you can't very well leave the place without at least a big regiment or there would be trouble.

My troops have reached Victoria point and Alor Star this turn on the malayan/thai peninsula, so there should be some action there shortly. KB has arrived in port and has spent a few turns relaxing and replacing a few lost souls (replacement pool now empty) and is either going to head into the solomons to support my small operations there ni the future, or head into the SRA to have a training session vs Raver's remaining strength.

I dispatched Ise, Hyuga and Mutsu to Kuching where they bombardfed Raver's airfield there, although they didn't do more than smack up a few buffaloes, but the intel they gained was impressive. Raver has condensed many many matrin 139 squadrons up and down the DEI and they all had a go at the BBs (fortunately, the pilots and planes both suck, not to mention their commander isn't the brightest spark in the plug). However, it does remain noted that there are at least 70 level bombers on that peninsula that would be albe to hit and sink transports when the time comes.

Quite unhappy to notice enemy ships at Palembang. Hopefully doing some evac?

Now that you guys have seen some repairs taking place, are there any issues about how slow, how quickly?

Have you tried also setting a few subs to computer control and seeing what happens?

Actually almost al lmy subs are on computer control - except for a couple of specific choke points and pick lines around the place. So far, the computer controlled subs have done the best (just too many to manage as far as i'm concerned).

As for repairs, basically you head for a port that has a shipyard and a certain number of repair points. Obviously the bigger the shipyard, more repair points, faster/more repairs. Easier to send BBs back to japan, but I have several repair vessels making their way to different ports to add their repair capabilities there.

Next turn or the turn after I will do some detailed work on my rpoduction optoins and my economy.

Luskan,

sorry if this has been covered before-perhaps never tried. If you harbor a large share of your resources from point one on can you subdue the chinese? The nice thing about WiTP to me is that the Japanese almost seem confined to their historical dilemma-need resources to defeat china so they go south to aquire them -this leads to overextension of their lines and wears down on their resources not to mention get s them embroiled with a vengeful uncompromising enemy with whom there is no negotiating.

Is it cost effective to go full force against the chinese initially then turn to the south or -as it seems by most AAR go for the easier kills on the ABDA early on and hope to resolve the China issue later.

thanks for your input,
john

ORIGINAL: j campbell

Luskan,

sorry if this has been covered before-perhaps never tried. If you harbor a large share of your resources from point one on can you subdue the chinese? The nice thing about WiTP to me is that the Japanese almost seem confined to their historical dilemma-need resources to defeat china so they go south to aquire them -this leads to overextension of their lines and wears down on their resources not to mention get s them embroiled with a vengeful uncompromising enemy with whom there is no negotiating.

Is it cost effective to go full force against the chinese initially then turn to the south or -as it seems by most AAR go for the easier kills on the ABDA early on and hope to resolve the China issue later.

thanks for your input,
john

Why not forget China altogether and pull most of the troops out except what you need to hold Manchukuo? Then you can use them elsewhere against the more dangerous enemies?

funny that was just the strategy i was advocating in the other post-no i am wondering what resources their are in china vs what is to be gained outside of china and hence much longer lines of defence-needed to protect those resources so far from Honshu.

ORIGINAL: Pascal
Why not forget China altogether and pull most of the troops out except what you need to hold Manchukuo? Then you can use them elsewhere against the more dangerous enemies?

Withdrawal from China was impossible without loss of face and therefore was unthinkable for the Japanese. It would have also been a total reversal of Japanese policies and imperialistic dreams. If the Japanese had been willing to give up their China plans, there would have been no reason to go to war with the more dangerous enemies. But they decided to go South in order to obtain the resources to finally finish off China. Giving up China simply wasn't a realistic option. So in WitP, withdrawing the CEA units from China should be charged with prohibitively high pp costs.

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget


Withdrawal from China was impossible without loss of face and therefore was unthinkable for the Japanese. It would have also been a total reversal of Japanese policies and imperialistic dreams. If the Japanese had been willig to give up their China plans, there would have been no reason to go to war with the more dangerous enemies. But they decided to go South in order to obtain the resources to finally finish off China. Giving up China simply wasn't a realistic option. So in WitP, withdrawing the CEA units from China should be charged with prohibitively high pp costs.

Sorry, LST, but I meant in the game. There are many ahistorical things I'd like to be able to do in WitP, as in UV, to see what the change may have engendered. Trying to pull out the US troops from the Philippines, the Brits and Aussies from Malaya and DEI, etc. would be one too. Using Jap subs in German-type wolfpacks against Allied sea lanes is another. Having a different mix of ships in the IJN at the start is another (fewer BB's, more CV's).

The political point system, and its sub-breakdown like the link you indicate above, should be one of those ON/OFF player choices.

Agreed, those player choices you mentioned would satisfy different tastes of the 'historics' and the 'what ifs' .

Well - you need to keep more than 6000 assault points in the manchuko area at all times. If this drops below 6000 - the Russians get opportunistic and declare war. Game over.

You start a fair bit over 6000 but you acn't risk it.

The other thing you just can't risk, is the economic meltdown that the japs go into if you don't get oil FAST. Unfortunately this means that you've got to forget China and go for the SRA and the oil there ASAP. Then you've got to start shipping it - so you always have to do the SRA first.

Sometimes the allied player will do some stupid moves in china (consolidate all his troops into certain points) which can allow you to encircle, or bring up tons of arty and blow them to hell with repeated bombardments.

Raver did that in our alpha beta - but now he's grown wiser. He'll trade space for time in China, and when my line gets to big, he'll hit back (hopefully I can trap the troops at Canton for good and take them out of the OOB). There are resources in China - but too few and too far to really worry about (I only make the effort to take them to deny them to the chinese).

ORIGINAL: Luskan

Well - you need to keep more than 6000 assault points in the manchuko area at all times. If this drops below 6000 - the Russians get opportunistic and declare war. Game over.

You start a fair bit over 6000 but you acn't risk it.

That's one of the ON/OFF player preferences I would like to see. As I've said elsewhere, given the demands of resisting the Germans, the Russians would not necessarily be able to spend the resources to declare war on Japan and invade Manchukuo if the garrison is smaller than 6000 assault points... In any case, it would be interesting if Russian invasion was not automatic...

I read in this forum that the Soviet invasion isn't automatic, just if you drop below the 6000 number they start doing rolls every time to see if they invade...... Still A "The Russians are coming, the Russians are comming!!" on off toggle would be nice. IIRC PTO II had a factor for how the Germans were doing out west (radomly done) and this translated into how many assets the Soviets got.

ORIGINAL: j campbell

Luskan,

sorry if this has been covered before-perhaps never tried. If you harbor a large share of your resources from point one on can you subdue the chinese? The nice thing about WiTP to me is that the Japanese almost seem confined to their historical dilemma-need resources to defeat china so they go south to aquire them -this leads to overextension of their lines and wears down on their resources not to mention get s them embroiled with a vengeful uncompromising enemy with whom there is no negotiating.

Is it cost effective to go full force against the chinese initially then turn to the south or -as it seems by most AAR go for the easier kills on the ABDA early on and hope to resolve the China issue later.

thanks for your input,
john

Please note that this is EXACTLY what the Japanese had been doing since 1937. If they
couldn't manage it when China was their ONLY enemy, then there should be NO CHANCE
that they can pull it off when the rest of the world has joined in. If there is, the game is
BROKEN and worthless as a simulation.

Mike

true to some degree-the Japanese never went full force against china-their overall commander-Sugiyama ( i believe) kept thinking the next battle would be the last-this process went on again and again and again. they were trying to accomplish the task at hand with not nearly enough manpower and resources. he had told the emporer originally that it ( meaning the "China incident") would be resolved in a month. I doubt that they could have sustained the necessary oil and resources required to fulfill thier objectives-hence it would be more prudent-although with "loss of face" to pull back to Manchuko.

john

I am having some strange problems with my PC....the bloody thing keeps re-booting so I have to try and nut out what the problem is ****NOTE****This problem is NOT related to the Beta testing of WiTP ! In the meantime I am sitting at work today and so can still cast my pearls[:)]