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RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:33 pm
by Nemo121
I can assure you Eire aka Ireland is fully represented

... typing as I look out a window on a nice river flowing through Dublin city itself.
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:41 pm
by Przemcio231
Well small error they were created in the early 16th Century and i think their finest victory came in 1605 near Kircholm were Polish army consisting of 1400 infantry 2400 cavalery and few cannons faced Swedish army od 8,500 Infantry , 2500 cavalery and 11 Cannons at the end poles lost about 100 KIA and 200 WIA of wich only 13 were Winged Lancers called Hussars and the Swed's lost some 6,500 to 7000 men... The other great Victory of the Hussars came in 1683 when they Charged the Turks besieging Wienna Routing their army completly...
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:42 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
Well not i think they were created somwhere in the end of the 16th century[:D]
I know they fought to lift the Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683, under Jan III Sobieski...
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:51 pm
by Przemcio231
Exactly but there they only routed the Turks inflicting them about 10.000 Casualitys some time ago near the Place called Parkany where the Turkish Army was completly wiped out[:)][:)]
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:53 pm
by Przemcio231
and here's the painting... of a polish Winged Lancer

RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:54 pm
by Monter_Trismegistos
Lancers sucks! Hussars rulez!
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:56 pm
by Monter_Trismegistos
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
and here's the painting... of a polish Winged Lancer
Your Lancer lost its wings!
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:08 pm
by Radzy
ORIGINAL: Terminus
Did the Polish Winged Lancers exist at the time of Grunwald?
Nay, Polish Winged Lancers (Husaria, hussars) were first presumably "used" during Battle of Orsza 1514. However as the separate formation they were first used in late XVI century...
KR
Radzy
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:10 pm
by msaario
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
Well small error they were created in the early 16th Century and i think their finest victory came in 1605 near Kircholm were Polish army consisting of 1400 infantry 2400 cavalery and few cannons faced Swedish army od 8,500 Infantry , 2500 cavalery and 11 Cannons at the end poles lost about 100 KIA and 200 WIA of wich only 13 were Winged Lancers called Hussars and the Swed's lost some 6,500 to 7000 men... The other great Victory of the Hussars came in 1683 when they Charged the Turks besieging Wienna Routing their army completly...
And in 1656 outside Warsaw the Poles/Hussars were decimated by the Swedes.
Win some lose some.
--Mikko
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:13 pm
by Przemcio231
ok and now here is the painting showing Polish Cavalery Charge at the battle of Kircholm

RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:16 pm
by DuckofTindalos
That's an amazing painting, Przemcio...
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:25 pm
by Przemcio231
Yeach while we happily were killing each other the Russians grew stronger and stronger first they crushed Sweden in the "Northern War" and then Russians took part in the dividing of Poland as for Battle near Warsaw yep you won[:D] but you only achived 2 to 1 kill ratio when we chived something like 25 to 1 [:D] but that dose not matter any way you had luck that you escaped as you were surrunded there[:D] and your victory did not change nothing as Poles recaptured Warsaw and repled something that is called "Swedish Flood" in Poland...[:D][:D][:D]
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:26 pm
by Przemcio231
this Painting showing the charge was done by Kossak i think the famus painter[:)]
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:29 pm
by mlees
I just had a depressing thought. So many battles. So many people hitting each other with bigger and bigger sticks. Sigh. Sucks to be Human. *sniff* Cant we all just get along?
Well, anyway, keep those paintings coming!
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:38 pm
by Helpless
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
ok and now here is the painting showing Polish Cavalery Charge at the battle of Kircholm
... and here is two polish knights just after the battle [:D]

RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:43 pm
by Przemcio231
Well this is a poster from an old Commie Cartoon showed in Poland... and here is another painting

RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:51 pm
by Przemcio231
ORIGINAL: mlees
I just had a depressing thought. So many battles. So many people hitting each other with bigger and bigger sticks. Sigh. Sucks to be Human. *sniff* Cant we all just get along?
Well now the people are not hitting one another with stick's and the menkind will not survive another World War
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:52 pm
by Helpless
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
Well this is a poster from an old Commie Cartoon showed in Poland...
[&:] As I remember it was totaly apolitical... and absolutly polish for us [:)]
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:56 pm
by Przemcio231
By commie cartoon i meant that it was made during the Commie times in Poland... yes it was apolitical as it was for kinds[:D]
RE: Europe
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:05 pm
by mlees
Well now the people are not hitting one another with stick's and the menkind will not survive another World War
We still hit each other with sticks. High tech sticks, but we still thump our chests, too.
Nuclear annhilation is not the only way for society to collapse due to war. But that is a steakhouse discussion. I do not want to get this thread locked.
Eastern European history tends to get a little glossed over in the US public school system. (Not arrogance, just limited time and not everything can have the same time devoted to it.) With the attitudes I remarked on in post #128 of the "1.8 works Great!!!" thread, too many kids in the public school system just can't seem to care.
They are more focused on their social lives, I assume.