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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:12 pm
by Grackle
Here are a few platforms that might be worth including in DB3000 as time and workload permits. These platforms would be useful for North Korea, Iran and China/Taiwan scenarios.

North Korea:

(1) Kong Bang LCPA: Major North Korean platform for infiltrating seaborne SOF. Probably based on UK Wellington design.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... g-bang.htm
http://jsw.newpacificinstitute.org/?p=4115
http://www.harpoondatabases.com/encyclo ... y1317.aspx

(2) Nampo LCP: Older landing craft for North Korean seaborne SOF based on P-6 torpedo boat
http://combatfleetoftheworld.blogspot.c ... -navy.html
http://www.koreanwar-educator.org/topic ... c60011.pdf
http://www.harpoondatabases.com/encyclo ... y3144.aspx

(3) nK Infiltration Trawler: North Korean infiltration ship disguised as a fishing trawler and capable of high speed. An example was sunk by Japan Coast Guard near Amami 0 Shima Island on 22 Dec 2001 and is on display at the Japan Coast Guard museum in Yokohama. The trawler is a mothership for semi-submersible infiltration boats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_ ... C5%8Cshima
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXRh2ahZCQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnSIZagOH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBw92s2h3xg
http://www.kpajournal.com/vol-1-no-1-january-2010/ (good details on armament in article)
http://www.kpajournal.com/vol-1-no-4-april-2010/ (info on earlier Japan infiltration in 1999)

Iran

(4) Wellington LCPA
http://www.shahyad.net/iiarmy/Navy/Hove ... craft.html
http://osimint.com/2013/07/30/irans-hov ... der-abbas/
http://www.harpoondatabases.com/encyclo ... y3065.aspx
(NB: I think Iraq also had a few of these prior to the 1991 war)

Taiwan

(5) Hsun Hai (Swift Sea) missile boat: Taiwan's answer to the PLA amphibious threat, likely inspired by the Houbei PTG but much more powerful. Taiwan plans to build 12 of these impressive platforms in the next several years. According to Wikipedia, the christened vessel will have a maximum speed of 38 knots and a range of 2,000 nautical miles. It is 60.4 meters in length and 14 meters wide, carries a crew of 41 personnel, is armed with eight Hsiung Feng II sub-sonic anti-ship missiles, eight Hsiung Feng III super-sonic anti-ship missiles, a 76mm main gun and a 20mm CIWS. The "Tuo River" (first of class) will undergo final tests and is expected to be deployed in the first half of 2015."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hsun_Hai-class_corvette
http://www.janes.com/article/35351/taiw ... e-corvette
hhttp://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cn ... swift-sea/
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003585674

Thanks very much...[:)]


RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:53 pm
by ccruler
It's been suggested that I copy over my list that I had started in a post to the CWDB and DB3000 posts so here's what I've got so far on the DB3000.

Suggested new Database entries:

DB3000 India: Tejas Mk.2 = currently in development
DB3000 India: Tejas Mk.3 = currently in development. Is a semi-stealthy design utilising a significant amount of composite materials.
DB3000 India: FGFA = Indian version of the PAK-FA
DB3000 India: AMCA = stealthy multi-role combat aircraft that is in the beginning stages of development.
DB3000 Russia: MiG/Sukhoi Skat = UCAV design heavily resembling the American X-45
DB3000 Russia: Mi-28 Havoc = several entries, Mi-28A, Mi-28N, Mi-28D and Mi-28NM
DB3000 United States: AH-64F Apache = significantly re-designed AH-64 with retractable landing gear and other features.
DB3000 United States: MH-60 "Stealth Hawk" = (Stealth Hawk is not an official name but from the crashed aircraft it was determined that they are heavily modified MH-60s) 2 were reported to have been used in Operation Neptune Spear in 2011.

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:52 pm
by Vici Supreme
Type classification for the Chinese Intelligence Gathering Ship-class 851 Dongdiao is Type 815.

Also thanks for having added the generic carriers! Spent some hours yesterday to model a future Russian aircraft carrier. [:)]

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:46 am
by MaB1708

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:49 pm
by Vici Supreme
ORIGINAL: MartinB

http://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boats-craft/lhd

Australian LHD.

Thanks,

M

Australian Canberra-class LHD was already added more than half a year ago. Look for "LHD 01 Canberra [Canberra, Juan Carlos Class]". Make sure you use the latest DB Version.

Supreme

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:19 pm
by Vici Supreme
Please add the TIF-25K Aerostat as an aircraft for the US Army/Navy.

In addition to this request, can you make the aircraft facilites on HSV-2 Swift (and maybe JHSV-1 Spearhead too) capable of hosting large aircrafts to launch aerostats?

Thanks

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:26 am
by Feltan
I think I stumbled on a pretty clear error. Please see attached screenshot.

The 107mm rocket launchers on Iranian speedboats are showing a warhead of 100 KG.

I am assuming this weapon is a derivative of the Chinese Type 63.

Please see this link: http://webpages.charter.net/cmjaltx/doc ... ockets.txt

The Haseb is an Iranian version of the Chinese Type 63. Warhead weight listed as 0.86 KG.

FYI, from personal experience, 107mm rocket launchers are pretty modest weapon systems. Unless there is something I am totally unaware of, no way a 107mm launcher has a 100 KG warhead.

Regards,
Feltan

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:41 am
by FlyingBear
AOR 1 Wichita appears to be broken. It has no munitions magazine and carries only 60 tons of fuel.

FlyingBear

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:41 am
by frosen
This a/c would be great if you also could add:

TP 85 [Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle III] -- Sweden (Air Force), 1972-1998, 2x
Type: Area Surveillance (ELINT)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sud_Aviation_Caravelle

(Strangely enough, the Caravelle platform is totally missing from the DB although it was fairly common back in the days.)

Thanks!

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:50 am
by OnFire
Would be nice if you could add for USA F-5E/F Tiger IIs (used e.g. by the Navy Fighter Weapons School).

Also maybe for Israel Iron Dome system?

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:01 pm
by Michael7619
Can you add a loadout of 2 hellfire-missiles to israeli Hermez-450 uav.

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:38 pm
by Dide
Hi. Anteo ship rescue (Italian Navy) http://www.marina.difesa.it/uominimezzi/navi/Pagine/Anteo.aspx
Thanks[:)]

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:28 pm
by mikmykWS
Hi All,

All request made from my last post have been logged.

Thanks!

Mike

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:42 am
by Sardaukar
Would it be possible to add "generic" light UAV? Both HAMAS and Hizbollah have used them.

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:38 pm
by orca
Would it be possible to add JSM to US F-35? Alternatively or in addtion, would it be possible to create generic F-35s that includes every loadout for all the versions from different countries?

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:06 pm
by mikmykWS
I'll add the request and we'll talk about it.

Our issue is it isn't a real load out. You do understand that correct?

Btw. If you do find information otherwise please do post it. Would change everything.

Mike

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:35 pm
by orca
Thanks. Yes I understand. It's still hypothetical. But possibly getting more likely.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/raytheon ... 1405415132

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:46 pm
by mikmykWS
Yeah I agree. Once they sign the contract its in.

Problem with just adding stuff is somebody pops a unit into their scenario and then three weeks later the program is cancelled/changed whatever and we then update it that change can impact the scenario from a big error message to an outcome far different than what was in their design. Historically this has infuriated players and we have many more to worry about. So we tend to be very careful about this.

We are still looking at ways to allow players to mod aircraft loadouts while on the ground as well. It is on our list and we do want to one day address it.

Thanks!

Mike

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:05 am
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah I agree. Once they sign the contract its in.

Problem with just adding stuff is somebody pops a unit into their scenario and then three weeks later the program is cancelled/changed whatever and we then update it that change can impact the scenario from a big error message to an outcome far different than what was in their design. Historically this has infuriated players and we have many more to worry about. So we tend to be very careful about this.

We are still looking at ways to allow players to mod aircraft loadouts while on the ground as well. It is on our list and we do want to one day address it.

Thanks!

Mike

That will make me very happy! [8D]

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:06 am
by ultradave
Just a bump of a database fix that I had previously noted, that didn't seem to make it into 1.04. It may be only cosmetic, but on the off chance that a sub could be damaged but not sunk, and in game lose 1 of the 2 listed reactors due to damage (and therefore still be able to function), that would be incorrect.

SSN21 SEAWOLF
SSN22 CONNECTICUT
SSN23 JIMMY CARTER

all have one (1) S6W reactor plant. Not two as listed.

Best unclass source: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_print.asp?cid=4100&tid=100&ct=4&page=1

HMS ASTUTE

has one (1) PWR-2 reactor plant. Not two as listed.

The US had only one submarine that had two reactors. That was the old Triton (of round the world submerged fame). The UK has never had a dual reactor sub.

As I said, it might make no practical difference except in a very rare circumstance, but in the interest of accuracy.....