RE: The Chinese Are Coming!
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:42 pm
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 20, 45
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Morning Air attack on Oita , at 104,59
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 44,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 16
Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 9 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 41900 feet
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
71st Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
958 Ku T-1/C with J7W1 Shinden (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 19
Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
CAP engaged:
Zuiho-1/B with J7W1 Shinden (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
958 Ku T-1/C with J7W1 Shinden (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
S-303 Hikotai with J7W1 Shinden (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Oita , at 104,59
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 46,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 9
Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
958 Ku T-1/C with J7W1 Shinden (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
71st Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 7
Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
Zuiho-1/B with J7W1 Shinden (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters between 41000 and 43000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
S-303 Hikotai with J7W1 Shinden (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Morning Air attack on TF, near Chiba at 114,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 5
P1Y2 Frances x 76
Ki-94-II x 29
Ki-100-I Tony x 22
Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 8
Hellcat F.II x 9
Seafire L.III x 6
FM-2 Wildcat x 54
F4U-1D Corsair x 116
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25
F6F-5 Hellcat x 222
F8F-1 Bearcat x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
P1Y2 Frances: 31 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-94-II: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Roi, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Vella Gulf, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Marcus Island
CVE Commencement Bay
CVE Kasaan Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Gilbert Islands
CVE Matanikau
CVE Lunga Point
CVE Kwajalein
CVE Kadashan Bay
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Kasaan Bay
Morning Air attack on TF, near Chiba at 114,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 22
P1Y2 Frances x 5
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 17
Ki-48-IIc Lily x 15
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-94-II x 2
Ki-201 Karyu x 1
Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 4
Hellcat F.II x 12
Seafire L.III x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 41
F4U-1A Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 251
F6F-3 Hellcat x 50
F6F-5 Hellcat x 251
F8F-1 Bearcat x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-48-IIc Lily: 9 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-94-II: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
APA Pierce, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Gen. C.G.Morton
DE Fair
DE LeHardy, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Morning Air attack on TF, near Utsonomiya at 115,61
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 27
B7A2 Grace x 22
Ki-48-IIc Lily x 21
Ki-94-II x 4
Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 4
Hellcat F.II x 16
Seafire L.III x 8
F4U-1A Corsair x 16
F4U-1D Corsair x 220
F6F-3 Hellcat x 32
F6F-5 Hellcat x 272
F8F-1 Bearcat x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 13 destroyed
B6N2a Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
B7A2 Grace: 13 destroyed
Ki-48-IIc Lily: 7 destroyed
Ki-94-II: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
BB Idaho, Kamikaze hits 1
Ground combat at Chiba (114,61)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 13790 troops, 218 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 869
Defending force 81090 troops, 846 guns, 1254 vehicles, Assault Value = 2921
Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:
27th Tank Regiment
2nd SP Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Tank Brigade
8th/A Division
1st Ind.Tank Brigade
8th/B Division
2nd Ind.Tank Brigade
48th Tank Regiment
8th/C Division
204th Naval Construction Battalion
18th Army
52nd Army
54th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th JNAF AF Unit
21st Air Flotilla
42nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Hvy.Artillery Regiment
24th RF Gun Battalion
Mito JAAF Base Force
Defending units:
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
7th Infantry Div /13
815th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
93rd Infantry Div /4
819th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
Sixth Army Combat Engr Rgt /13
7th Indian Div /1
Guides Cavalry Regiment
33rd Infantry Div /13
3rd New Chinese Corps /27
XXIV Corps Combat Engr Rgt /13
8th Marine AA Battalion
XIV US Corps /1
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Ground combat at Utsonomiya (115,60)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 33597 troops, 374 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 1618
Defending force 50088 troops, 649 guns, 974 vehicles, Assault Value = 1683
Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:
51st Depot/A Division
140th/A Division
214th/A Division
140th/C Division
3rd Division
51st Depot/C Division
51st Depot/B Division
214th/B Division
351st/B Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
140th/B Division
214th/C Division
351st/A Division
351st/C Division
35th Ind. Hvy.Art. Battalion
51st Army
10th Air Fleet
52nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
27th Air Flotilla
61st Construction Battalion
Kasumigaura JNAF Base Force
Defending units:
24th Infantry Div /1
31st Infantry Div /1
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
6th Infantry Div /1
19th Motorised Div /1
7th RAN Base Force /2
V US Amphib Corps /1
Night Time Surface Combat, near Yokohama/Yokosuka at 114,62, Range 8,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
CA Suzuya
DD Kiyokaze
DD Taekaze
DD Kiyousuki
DD Ozuki
DD Hazuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
DD Franks, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
DD Halligan
DD Lewis Hancock
DD Haraden, Shell hits 2, on fire
Night Time Surface Combat, near Yokohama/Yokosuka at 114,62, Range 9,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage 8 inch penetrating hits for the most part! Detaches and runs for cover
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Kiyokaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Taekaze
DD Kiyousuki, Shell hits 1
DD Ozuki, Shell hits 2
DD Hazuki, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1
CA Baltimore, Shell hits 1
CA Pittsburgh, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA St. Paul, Shell hits 2
DD Quiberon
DD Quickmatch
DD Quadrant
DD Saumarez
DD Teazer, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
DD Vigilant
DD Virago, Shell hits 2, on fire
Night Time Surface Combat, near Yokohama/Yokosuka at 114,62, Range 8,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 7, on fire
DD Sakaki
DD Hishi, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City, on fire
CA Baltimore, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Pittsburgh, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
CA St. Paul, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Quiberon
DD Quickmatch
DD Quadrant
DD Saumarez, Shell hits 1
DD Teazer, heavy fires
DD Vigilant, Shell hits 1
DD Virago, on fire
Night Time Surface Combat, near Yokohama/Yokosuka at 113,61, Range 7,000 Yards
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1b Jake: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Shell hits 29, and is sunk
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 31, and is sunk
DD Kiyokaze, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Taekaze, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Kiyousuki, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Shell hits 21, heavy fires Oddly poetic to have this ship here.
BC Renown, Shell hits 2
CB Guam, Shell hits 2
CL Boise, Shell hits 6 Ditto
DD Douglas Fox
DD Haynsworth, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Lyman K. Swenson, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
DD Chevalier II
CL Trondheim, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Hedeby, Shell hits 1
CL Kattegat
Day Time Surface Combat, near Utsonomiya at 115,61, Range 16,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CVL Ibuki, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey
BB Wisconsin
BB Missouri, Shell hits 1
DD Drexler
DD English
DD Hugh W. Hadley
DD Hyman
DD Maddox
DD Mansfield
Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Tank Brigade, at 114,61 (Chiba)
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 8
J2M5 Jack x 24
J7W1 Shinden x 10
N1K5-J George x 21
Ki-84r Frank x 11
Ki-94-II x 12
Ki-201 Karyu x 2
Allied aircraft
Hellcat F.II x 2
B-29-25 Superfort x 258
B-29B Superfort x 20
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F4U-1A Corsair x 7
F4U-1D Corsair x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9
F6F-5 Hellcat x 22
F8F-1 Bearcat x 1
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-94-II: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed
B-29-25 Superfort: 8 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
F8F-1 Bearcat: 1 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 71 (1 destroyed, 70 disabled)
Ground combat at Chiba (114,61)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 92639 troops, 1368 guns, 1871 vehicles, Assault Value = 3302
Defending force 24715 troops, 286 guns, 769 vehicles, Assault Value = 881
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Allied adjusted assault: 1315
Japanese adjusted defense: 268
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
4273 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 374 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 130 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 49 disabled
Guns lost 113 (18 destroyed, 95 disabled)
Vehicles lost 191 (46 destroyed, 145 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1794 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 193 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 62 disabled
Guns lost 47 (2 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Vehicles lost 62 (11 destroyed, 51 disabled)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
/yeah, biggest drawback on the J7W ... low climb rate ... coupled with high SR .... for me I have to be very thoughtful in using them.ORIGINAL: mind_messing
The 94 and J7W seem to work best in tandem. Shinden low and the 94 high. If I had to make a choice, I'd go 94, but simply because Loka has decided that they're that good he needs to shut down the production with 4E strikes on the factories.
I generally do NOT build the 3-J model because of lack of armament. 30mm has only acc=15. And 2 of the cannon shoot up. It is really a NF that did NOT get the designation (and accompanying bonuses).ORIGINAL: ElvisDaKing
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
/yeah, biggest drawback on the J7W ... low climb rate ... coupled with high SR .... for me I have to be very thoughtful in using them.ORIGINAL: mind_messing
The 94 and J7W seem to work best in tandem. Shinden low and the 94 high. If I had to make a choice, I'd go 94, but simply because Loka has decided that they're that good he needs to shut down the production with 4E strikes on the factories.
For IJAF, late war fighters best couple seems to be Ki-94 II / Ki-83
For IJN, J7W is the fastest piston engine fighter and i am considering also the A7M3-J because of its huge firepower (6x30mm) despite being a bit slow.
But i have rarely seen any discussion about the A7M3-J performance....
(re. I will not build rocket/turbojet plane because of their too high SR and because of engine R&D/production optimization)
The Ki83/94 gives the IJA a good flexibility on both defense and offense. The 94 in particular is an excellent airframe, but the 83 is just so damn flexible.ORIGINAL: ElvisDaKing
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
/yeah, biggest drawback on the J7W ... low climb rate ... coupled with high SR .... for me I have to be very thoughtful in using them.ORIGINAL: mind_messing
The 94 and J7W seem to work best in tandem. Shinden low and the 94 high. If I had to make a choice, I'd go 94, but simply because Loka has decided that they're that good he needs to shut down the production with 4E strikes on the factories.
For IJAF, late war fighters best couple seems to be Ki-94 II / Ki-83
For IJN, J7W is the fastest piston engine fighter and i am considering also the A7M3-J because of its huge firepower (6x30mm) despite being a bit slow.
But i have rarely seen any discussion about the A7M3-J performance....
(re. I will not build rocket/turbojet plane because of their too high SR and because of engine R&D/production optimization)
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
... against shipping it eludes me...
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
... against shipping it eludes me...
+1
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
... against shipping it eludes me...
+1
Glad to know it's not just me, I've been bitterly disapointed with fragmented strikes against massed Allied CV CAP.
Mixing up attack altitudes leads to the occasional leaker getting through, but it's never often enough to make massed attacks remotely viable. If attacking raids would actually co-ordinate on occasion it might be a different story. Defending CAP has no issue smashing ten seperate raids of twenty planes strung out over various altitudes, but it might struggle with two seperate raids seperated by the entire altitude band (the assumption being that it's possible to actually get them to co-ordinate well enough). Or so I hope, more testing is neeed.
ORIGINAL: Miller
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
+1
Glad to know it's not just me, I've been bitterly disapointed with fragmented strikes against massed Allied CV CAP.
Mixing up attack altitudes leads to the occasional leaker getting through, but it's never often enough to make massed attacks remotely viable. If attacking raids would actually co-ordinate on occasion it might be a different story. Defending CAP has no issue smashing ten seperate raids of twenty planes strung out over various altitudes, but it might struggle with two seperate raids seperated by the entire altitude band (the assumption being that it's possible to actually get them to co-ordinate well enough). Or so I hope, more testing is neeed.
You really need the LBA-KB 1-2 punch combo, but I'm afraid you don't have the KB anymore. Usually the LBA always goes in first and takes it on the chin, then if your lucky the KB launches a mega strike that manages to get a good % of the bombers through. In my experience its better to have everything set to the same alt to increase the chance of a larger coordinated strike. Also have at least 2 escorts for every bomber, and that any good fighter pilots are replaced by cannon fodder as they are only there to soak up bullets anyway.
[&o][&o][&o]ORIGINAL: mind_messing
It's an interesting learning experience, even if it is sometimes exceptionally frustrating.