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This is in response to the thread wondering if the Russian SAM upgrades were stand-ins. Asked for information, I looked. Obviously this is claims, speculation, and guesstimates.

Buk-M3:

-Has six missiles per TEL.Link
-Performance speculation

AM "Buk-M3" - further development of the complex and can be adopted in2009. as a complex military army air defense unit. To effectively countering possible threats from the air in the next 12-15 years when it is created using new technologies and developments. It is expected that the "Buk-M3" will be able to destroy air targets, operating at speeds up to 3000 m / s at a range of 2.5 -70 km and altitudes 0,015 -35 km. Antiaircraft battalion will target 36 channels.

So, no real improvement in range but definitely updated electronics.


Tor upgrade/9M338:
Link
Additional link

-Smaller, TEL can carry double the number of missiles. Says it has a ceiling of 10 km as well.

Says longer-ranged than normal Tor but doesn't give specifics

Manufacturer's site

Thanks[:)]

Add it to our list.

ORIGINAL: greatTop

New french SSN Barracuda class that I would really like to see, I can try and find more informations if needed, but even in the french press they don't talk a lot about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Barracuda-class_submarine

Thanks guys

I would just like to add my vote for the Barracuda. Here are a few more sites with information...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... racuda.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -specs.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... a-unit.htm
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/fra ... ass-02902/
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/barracuda/
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... rance-navy

(I'm hoping this will provide enough information that a "guesstimate" version, like the one for some other future platforms like a couple of the Chinese jets, can be added to the database and then updated as more information becomes available.)

Here's another request...this one should be easy...

Marker (Geographic) (Generic)

This is basically the same thing as the markers for a town or a city, but it can be used for any geographic feature, like an island or a mountain or anything else that is not a populated area but might need to be clearly identified for some reason. (Actually, the existing ones can be used for this, but it's just more aesthetically pleasing to not have to use a "city" marker for something that isn't a city.)

Yak-130

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... at-377381/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -specs.htm

Thanks for reply and for great support and great game.

Would be very nice too add that feature. Will this include ability to clone and to import/export edited units? Would also be nice to be able to import/export bases and ships while including aircraft and other units that are added to them.

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah I agree. Once they sign the contract its in.

Problem with just adding stuff is somebody pops a unit into their scenario and then three weeks later the program is cancelled/changed whatever and we then update it that change can impact the scenario from a big error message to an outcome far different than what was in their design. Historically this has infuriated players and we have many more to worry about. So we tend to be very careful about this.

We are still looking at ways to allow players to mod aircraft loadouts while on the ground as well. It is on our list and we do want to one day address it.

Thanks!

Mike

Hey guys,

Is the USS Oriskany on your add list? There was talk of it being re-activated and it would be nice to have an Essex class carrier in the 1980-2015 database to create some what-if scenerio's (like Argentina having an Essex class during the Falklands war).

thanks

The FFG 1 Brooke class frigate is listed as having an AN/SPS-40 radar. That is incorrect; it should have an AN/SPS-52. I do not have a complete sub type update history, but at a late stage it was the AN/SPS-52B (source: Chris Bishop, The Encyclopedia of World Sea Power).

This applies to various ships equipped with the Mk 68 GFCS (DDG Farragut, DDG Charles F Adams and many others). Is there really no optical component to that system? It is after all a manned topside director and pictures indicate the presence of traditional optical range finders.

Why this is significant: I was surprised to find that even old fashined Soviet jamming systems like the Top Hat can render the Mk 68 GFCS completely impotent in a surface action, with the AN/SPG-53F radar's burn through range against the jamming being about 3 nm (see attached). That might be as designed, but the optical component, if present, should have been able to engage much sooner.

Brimstone 2

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brimstone_(missile)

http://www.mbda-systems.com/mobile/news-view.php?p=2

About the FlyingBear comments about the Brooke class:
- Conway's 1947-1995 says the (probably) original outfit was SPS-39 (3D, in service 1/1960) and SPG-51 (missile guidance).
- The 3D/HF radar is a must for the Tartar/Standard missile employ, clearly Brooke needs in the real world a 3D/HF radar.
- SPS-39 was probably later (near 1980?) replaced by the aforementioned SPS-52B.
- The SPS-39 (III) (in service from 1963, and the Brooke is of 1966) has a planar antenna as early SPS-52, and are too similar to be distingued.
- More details about the change date of the radar should be here, analizing the photos and timeline of each one of the Brooke-class ships (I do it usually for other ship's clases).
http://www.navsource.org/archives/06/0601002.htm
- Most of the data are of Norman Friedman's "Naval Radar", Conway 1981.

A What-If request: RAH-66 Comanche

Thanks!

Someone mentioned the under-development SPEAR for F-35s. (The brochure depicts them being deployed on a Typhoon as well)

Manufacturer's page

A colourful idea USAF/USN/USMC Aggressor F-5E/F Tiger II, they were combat ready and combat capable for use on open war situations.
Confirmed in two different Facebook chats with 3rd TFW veterans (the F-5E Tiger II will share the same AIM-9P3 with the Wing F-4E/G Phantoms) and Bert of Detail&Scale Publications, I suppose simply no person has think about his use in scenarios before, and them are not present in the database.
Some partial data:
USAF Aggressor F-5E/F employed 1975-1990: 70 aircraft?.
USMC Aggressor F-5E/F employed 1989+ (replacing the previous F-21A Kfir).
USN Aggressor F-5E/F employed 1975+.
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f5_30.html
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f5_29.html
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f5_28.html

Db requests added to our list

Mike

Not sure if this has been fixed yet but I noticed the Knox Class frigates listings and pictures are not matching.. Some of the class had Sea Sparrow Launchers on the fantail. Plus the listing says some had CWIS but the images do not reflect that.

One other thing... is there a plan to add descriptive information to all database entries eventually? I love reading the details about different systems, there use, when and where they were used, whether they are still in service and with whom, what upgrades and updates have been done and so forth..

One last thing, if whomever found the picture of the U.S.S. Henry B. Wilson DDG-7, an Adam's class guided missile destroyer, reads this, if I can, I would love to get a full res copy of the picture as seen in the database. She was one of the destroyers I served on in the middle 80's and I do not have any good shots of her. The one in the database is excellent and I would love to have a full resolution copy if possible for myself.

CG 26 Belknap has no surface search radar in the database. Various sources indicate either an AN/SPS-10B or an AN/SPS-67; I suppose it was upgraded from one to the other at some point.

Thanks Added.

Mike

CGN 36 California has no surface search radar either. Various sources say AN/SPS-55 or AN/SPS-67. I have no clue which is correct, or if both are, sorry.

Request for a few What-If and/or forthcoming units...

B-1A bomber (US - aircraft)
A-7F (US - aircraft)
F-20 (US - aircraft)
F-16XL (US - aircraft)
Avenger (Predator C) (US - aircraft)
Merkava (I-IV) (Israel - armor)
Achzarit (Israel - armor)
Namer (Israel - armor)
Wolf (Israel - armor)
Civilians (Generic - infantry <unarmed>)