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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Nik doesn't have a clue what he's doing[;)]

When has he ever?

Good point .. how did you manage it Nik ? its been a massive bugbear from day 1 .. Kudos is you have managed it ..

By overcoming my reluctance to mess with Gary's linear mathamatical relationships in regards to plane types. The final piece of the puzzle was in effect, not a new discovery for me but i was hoping to fix things through other means. Almost did...but recent playtests showed that fighters were still going down in droves....especially where fighter sweeps were concerned.

why can't matrix fix it for us stock players!

A valid question (god i'm starting to sound like Sid. [:'(] )

For something to be "fixed", it must first be determined to be broken. Once determined to be broken, a solution must be agreed upon. Only problem here is that everyone and their kid sister has an opinion on how air combat (not to mention all other combats) should resolve. How is matrix supposed to determine which is right? Now in the case of large air combats of course ...matrix has admitted that the model doesn't handle uber-battles well....however an additional problem is that everything in the game is interconnected. You can't make changes without possibly impacting other areas. A knee jerk reaction can make things worse. As a modder, i can appreciate this even more. I do get occasional feedback and sometimes it's not "Hey this is great" but rather "hey this needs to be changed!"

I"m sure some players will feel my latest tweaks are too much because they've been acostomed to air battles resolving more quickly. Time will tell. I'm really excited about the changes myself. A recent battle of midway simm gave the best results i've seen yet when comparing to the losses recorded in Lundstrom.

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

A valid question (god i'm starting to sound like Sid. [:'(] )

Good Lord, is there something you can take for that?

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

A valid question (god i'm starting to sound like Sid. [:'(] )

Good Lord, is there something you can take for that?

15 hours of uninterrupted World cup soccer?
[:D]

I was thinking a 15-pound sledge hammer to the frontal lobe, but potayto, potahto...[:'(]

only necessary if one is Danish

There we go again with the casting of aspertions... Tsktsktsktsk...

My only asperation at this point is to win LOTTO.

ASPERTION, not aspiration, you nincompoop!

Nimcompooop.

well while i wait for the glacially slow Speedster to send me a turn 1...i've started my own AI game vs. Japan and started on a bottle of Fighting Cock 103 proof whiskey. [:D]

The battle of the Coral Sea just occured:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/07/42



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Day Air attack on Imphal , at 33,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 24
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 19
Ki-48 Lily x 9
Ki-15 Babs x 4

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 14000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 14000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dacca , at 31,24

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 31
Ki-21 Sally x 59
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 21 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
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Coral Sea begins:


Day Air attack on TF at 54,95

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 14 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CA Myoko
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,95

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8
SBD Dauntless x 30
TBD Devastator x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 22 damaged
TBD Devastator: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Aoba
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,95

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
TBD Devastator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 damaged
TBD Devastator: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, on fire
CVL Shoho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 56,96

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
D3A Val x 21
B5N Kate x 25

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
D3A Val: 8 destroyed, 5 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 21 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CA Chester

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 56,96

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
D3A Val x 22

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 18 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Morris, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CA Minneapolis

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 56,96

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 21

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 7 destroyed, 7 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Lexington, on fire
CV Yorktown, on fire
CA Astoria

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,95

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 10
Kittyhawk I x 6
Beaufort I x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 10 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 3 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku, on fire
CV Zuikaku, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet

specifics...<hic!>

go ME!

Not too bad a return for the crippling and hopefully soon to be sinking Shoho (confirmed by recon that the crippled ship was detached from the mini-KB)

Time for a another Shot!

<hic!>

Alas...poor Neosho....Alas poor SImms (sunk) you have been avenged. (lol...made for a pretty historical feel....the AI boogerheads attacked my replenishment TF the turn before the battle)

time for another shot!

AHHGG!!!!

USAAF boys are obviously Japanese Fanboys. Time for a purge!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/08/42

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Day Air attack on TF, near Fergusson Island at 57,94

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 15 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CV Shokaku
DD Shiratsuyu

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet
1 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet

Great stuff Nik

My air force units have hit nothing. They can't even find the subs lurking around Pearl Harbor, let alone attack them. Hmmm, maybe if I change the altitude.

Yes. Altitude counts as does mission type.
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Naval Search will mean the group flies the % of planes you set out to the maximum range setting you select.
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On ASW mission types they fly 1/2 of their assigned range but as such the search is more concentrated.
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I often find 2000-5000 is good height for ASW. Normally fly search missions at 6000. Recon mission at 20000