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ORIGINAL: lumiere

(CWDB Build 472) #2249 CVA-7 Hornet
Hull number mistaken: it should be "CV(A)-8" instead (CV-7 is Wasp).

Fixed

ORIGINAL: Para87

ORIGINAL: BuckDashing

There's a whole chunk of mostly American cruisers that have their fuel capacity/fuel efficiency messed up.

On the DB list, between CA 124 Rochester and CBMG 1 Alaska, 90% of the ships have the lower, simplified ~40 ton capacity (not their real capacity), but use their real-life fuel efficiency. There are a few of them that have their capacity updated to the true value, but most of them have extremely high fuel usage to their capacity. Most of these ships now have less than 1 day endurance.

Ideally, they should have their actual efficiencies and capacities, but a short term fix should be just to reduce their fuel usage to abstract it like many other ships.

This issue was pointed out over a year ago but unfortunately has never been fully addressed.

All fixed

Hello, some additions to the Finnish Navy Cold War Database:

The mine layer/mine sweeper Keihässalmi was launched in 1957 and served until 1994. It served as the navy flagship and also as a training ship later in the career.
She had a displacement of 360 t, length of 56 m, a beam of 7,7 m and a draught of 2,2 m.
The propulsion was two Wärtsilä diesels of 800 hp each, which gave a speed of 15 knots.

The equipment was originally quite spartan, with navigational radar and only optic gun fire control + a search light but was later updated with gun fire control radar.

Original equipment
-Decca 707 #3760
-Generic Optical Sight -- Anti-Air & Surface #1020
-Generic Searchlight #251
-Generic Mechanical Cable Cutter Mine Sweep #4657
-Generic Magnetic Mine Sweep

Original mounts and weapons (1957-1975)
-3 x 40mm/60 Single Bofors -- Generic #993
-2 x 20mm/60 #1027
-2 x mine rails for a total of 100 mines
-2 x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] #200
-2 x Depth Charge Throwers [12 DC] #1109

Equipment 1957-1975
-Decca 707 #3760
-Drum Tilt [MR-104 Rys] -- 25mm & 30mm GFCR #1545
-Bell Tap RWR #1434
-Generic Mechanical Cable Cutter Mine Sweep #4657
-Generic Magnetic Mine Sweep

Mounts and weapons (1975-1994)
-2 x AK-230 30mm/65 Twin #234
-2 x 20mm/60 #1027
-12.7mm/50 MG -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability #561
-2 x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] #200
-2 x Depth Charge Throwers [12 DC] #1109

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_m ... 3%A4ssalmi
http://www.forum-marinum.fi/fi/nayttely ... ihassalmi/

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In 1962 Finland purchased the Royal Navy anti-aircraft frigate HMS Porlock Bay (#26) and renamed her Matti Kurki. In the Finnish Navy she primarily was a training ship, but also had
a combat role. She was scrapped in 1976.

Mounts/Stores/Weapons
-2 x 102mm/45 Mk16 Twin -- RN, 4-inch #1017
-2 x 40mm/60 Twin Bofors #205
-2 x 40mm/70 m/48 Single Bofors #1792
-2 x 20mm/60 #1027
-1 x Mk15 Hedgehog Trainable ASW Mortar #1988
-2 x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] #200
-4 x Depth Charge Throwers [12 DC] #1109

Equipment
-Type 276 Radar
-Type 285 GFCR
-Type 293Q Radar #2574
-Type 974 [Decca 12] #4498
-FH-4 HF/DF #740
-Type 147 sonar #1411

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Porlock_Bay_(K650)
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koululaiva_Matti_Kurki


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In 1964 Finland also purchase two modified Soviet Riga-class Frigates (#550), Filin (renamed Uusimaa) and SKR-69 (renamed Hämeenmaa).
They were operated together as the Hämeenmaa-class until 1979 when the Hämeenmaa was rebuilt as a mine layer and the Uusimaa scrapped for parts.

They were quite similar to the Soviet ships, but there were some small differences:

Mounts/Stores/Weapons
-3 x 100 mm/56 single #477
-2 x 40mm/70 m/48 Single Bofors #1792
-1 x AK-230 30mm/65 Twin #234
-1 x 533mm Triple TT #2212
-2 x Mk15 Hedgehog Trainable ASW Mortar #1988
-2 x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] #200
-2 x Depth Charge Throwers [12 DC] #1109

Equipment:
-Buck Toe [GAS-572 Pegas 2] #1364
-Slim Net [Fut-N] #1566
-Hawk Screech [Yakor] -- GFCR, 45mm, 57mm, 76mm, 100mm #1540
-Drum Tilt [MR-104 Rys] -- 25mm & 30mm GFCR #1545
-Decca 707 #3760
-Watch Dog B [Bizan] -- Jug Pair, adds omni #1100

In 1980 Uusimaa was scrapped and Hämeenmaa rebuilt as a mine layer, where some of the equipment were removed, exchanged or updated.
The Hedgehog racks and and torpedo tubes were removed and mine rails for 200 mixed naval mines added.


Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_f ... %A4meenmaa
https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/19 ... t+2018.pdf (pages 34-37)

Hi

RN trial Jaguar for carrier ops in 1971. Could we have hypothetical Jaguar for aircraft carrier?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/c ... ials_1971/

Thank!

Bill

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hi

RN trial Jaguar for carrier ops in 1971. Could we have hypothetical Jaguar for aircraft carrier?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/c ... ials_1971/

Thank!

Bill

No issues Bill [:)]

CWDB v478

Reviewing US torpedos. A few comments and notes:

1. #603 Mk35 - Check PoH. Reads as 64%. Mk37 (the successor to the Mk35) has a much lower PoH. Typo?

2. #1650 Mk27 - Check Sensors. The Mk27 was passive only. Current DB has it listed as active/passive.

3. #1650 Mk27 - Unimportant, but it listed as in service 1946-1980. It was taken out of service in 1960 (as was many late war torpedoes) with the introduction of the Mk37 Mod 0 (1957) and Mod 1 (1960)

4. #1650 Mk27 - More research may be needed, but although the Mk27 was surely designed for (and used in WWII accordingly) as an anti-ship weapon, some references mention it was used as a stop-gap anti-submarine weapon post-war until the introduction of the Mk35/Mk37 in the early and late 1950's. Current DB lists surface targets only.

5. #166 Mk37 Mod 1 and #165 Mk37 Mod 2 - The Mk37 was a single wire (send only). Both are listed as dual wire in error.

6. #166 Mk37 Mod 1 - Unimportant, but its most likely service date was 1960, not 1961.

7. #165 Mk37 Mod 2 and #707 Mk37 Mod 3 - Unimportant, but some sources have the introduction of these upgrades in 1967. DB lists 1969 as beginning of service date.

Default load outs may need to be reviewed and platform dates modified accordingly. Overall though, very pleased with the progress of the US submarine portion of the DB. Thank you for you efforts!

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hi

RN trial Jaguar for carrier ops in 1971. Could we have hypothetical Jaguar for aircraft carrier?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/c ... ials_1971/

Thank!

Bill

Related and probably of interest, French Aeronavale Jaguar Marine story and demise (in French):
https://www.pilote-chasse-11ec.com/jaguar-marine/

ORIGINAL: boogabooga

Aircraft 3073 and 4049 (at least)-U.S. 1967 and 1968 versions of the F-4D Phantom II- seem to be missing the AN/APQ-109 radar (or any radar for that matter) as of CWDB 478. As a result, they can't use Sparrows, detect targets, etc. I don't believe that this was a problem as of CWDB 466.

To reproduce:
Build a quick battle with F-4Ds (not Cs) as the escort using this:
fb.asp?m=4900701

Or just check with the database viewer.

ORIGINAL: Rory Noonan

ORIGINAL: boogabooga

Aircraft 3073 and 4049 (at least)-U.S. 1967 and 1968 versions of the F-4D Phantom II- seem to be missing the AN/APQ-109 radar (or any radar for that matter) as of CWDB 478. As a result, they can't use Sparrows, detect targets, etc. I don't believe that this was a problem as of CWDB 466.

To reproduce:
Build a quick battle with F-4Ds (not Cs) as the escort using this:
fb.asp?m=4900701

Or just check with the database viewer.

Hi Rory thanks I'll see what I can do

ORIGINAL: .Sirius

ORIGINAL: jimmyblond

All versions of the venerable F-100 had four 20mm M39 cannon except the F-100F which had only two of them. So please change this accordingly.

The F-100 All versions except F,RF and Q have 4 20mm already

The F-100 All versions except F,RF and Q have 4 20mm already

I think he meant that the F-100F only had 2x 20mm rather than 4x 20mm as is in the DB now.

Wessex mkV gunship
Armament seems to be 2inch rockets 2 fixed browning m1919 forward firing and 2 GPMG in the cabin

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205215014

Hello

J 34 Hunter need updates.

Out of service date is 1969.
It carry RB-24 Sidewinder loadout when Sweden build RB-24. Probably 1960.

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/121j34/121J34.htm
https://twitter.com/JonathanRL/status/1 ... 4416043014
https://www.airvectors.net/avsdaam.html

Thank you

Hello

Please Add Cold War West German Frigates. These were training frigate but updated to do limited ASW and escort jobs in wars.

x3 F 212 Gneisnau (Ex UK Hunt) 1958-1972
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/German ... -class.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Oakley_(L98)
https://twitter.com/MikiAV8BHarrier/sta ... 36/photo/1

x4 F 213 Scharnhorst (ex UK Black Swan) 1959-1968
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/German ... -class.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Mermaid_(U30)

Thank you

ORIGINAL: Vulcan607

Wessex mkV gunship
Armament seems to be 2inch rockets 2 fixed browning m1919 forward firing and 2 GPMG in the cabin

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205215014

Noted

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hello

J 34 Hunter need updates.

Out of service date is 1969.
It carry RB-24 Sidewinder loadout when Sweden build RB-24. Probably 1960.

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/121j34/121J34.htm
https://twitter.com/JonathanRL/status/1 ... 4416043014
https://www.airvectors.net/avsdaam.html

Thank you

Noted and thanks for the out of service dates

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hello

Please Add Cold War West German Frigates. These were training frigate but updated to do limited ASW and escort jobs in wars.

x3 F 212 Gneisnau (Ex UK Hunt) 1958-1972
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/German ... -class.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Oakley_(L98)
https://twitter.com/MikiAV8BHarrier/sta ... 36/photo/1

x4 F 213 Scharnhorst (ex UK Black Swan) 1959-1968
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/German ... -class.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Mermaid_(U30)

Thank you

No issues thanks for the links

Thank you Mr. Sirius!

Special USAF F4E phantom load out Chico the gunfighter
2 SUU 23 gun pods 4 mk20 rockeye 1 600 gallon tank 2 aim7e2 1 alq71


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-chico-the-gunfighter-the-very-unique-gun-podded-stormy-fast-fac-f-4e-phantom-ii-used-during-the-vietnam-war/

The 1979 Boeing Airborne Aircraft Carrier Concept. (Its a 747 with 10-12 fighter aircraft!)

I can send you the study boeing made and a writeup highlighting relevant capabilities for the database.

Let me know if a flying aircraft carrier is possible to do in engine.

P.S. I know the description is small, I've tried to enter a post about this off and on for the last four years, this is the first time it worked.

There is a discrepancy between CWDB v478 and DB3000 v487 with the AN/APQ-104 radar on the F-8E(FN). The former has it as an 8 nm range-only radar while the later has it as a 60 nm full-service FCR.

I'm not sure which is correct, but I tend to believe the later, as it's used to guide the R.530 SARH.