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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:21 pm
by Dutch_slith
Artilleriecommando Soerabaja

attached 1 MBA company



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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:22 pm
by Dutch_slith
2nd Pioneer Company



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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:23 pm
by Dutch_slith
6th Cavalry Squadron

broken up in 3 platoons to protect the airfields Maospati/Singosari/Perak



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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:24 pm
by Andy Mac
You class the Pioneer Coys as combat engineers ?

9 squads is kind of low I would just add 1 - 4 into the Regt TOE otherwise to many ants floating around.

(as a principal - which we dont always follow we trry to avoid tiny units - a few are neccessary but I trey not to have Coy sized formations floating around they are to easy to abuse.)

Ltd risk in Java but those will almost inevitably end up attached to one of the 4 Regts on Java

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:24 pm
by Dutch_slith
Madoera Detachment

without the 2 companies Legioen Mangkoe Negoro



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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:25 pm
by Dutch_slith
Korps Prajoda



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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:25 pm
by Andy Mac
p.s. what is a Korps Marcheausse ?

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:29 pm
by bradfordkay
Von S... there is a crew of dedicated volunteers working hard on the AE expansion to WITP. They could have released it several months ago, but decided to work on creating a more viable AI so that everyone and not just the PBEM crowd would have a chance to enjoy the expansion.

It is going to be released. When is a good question, but it isn't going to be answered until the thing goes gold.

Whining about this and badgering the volunteers isn't going to make it arrive any sooner, so it is best to just go with the flow and buy it when it is finally released...

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:35 pm
by Dutch_slith
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

You class the Pioneer Coys as combat engineers ?

9 squads is kind of low I would just add 1 - 4 into the Regt TOE otherwise to many ants floating around.

(as a principal - which we dont always follow we trry to avoid tiny units - a few are neccessary but I trey not to have Coy sized formations floating around they are to easy to abuse.)

Ltd risk in Java but those will almost inevitably end up attached to one of the 4 Regts on Java

Actually there were 3 Engineer/Pioneer Bn on Java. All had 1 coy of Pioneers (combat engineers) and two companies of normal engineers. But only the combat engineers are mentioned, maybe the others were deployed elsewhere ...
Information on them is just ... scarce!

If I had to attach them, I would have chosen the Artilleriecommando. Ever using them in a defensive role (blowing up installations) is KNIL GRAND Strategy....

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:45 pm
by Andy Mac
OK I will have a look I need to translate on the fly as we have a load of new bases on Java and Sumatra so I am redeploying as I write down.

p.s. I assume you are ok with me using your research - I need to modiify it to fit within parameters accross nations but I am adapting your stuff to be the new Dutch baseline.

I am slavishly rewriting whole sections of the Dutch OOB based on your data - it wont be an exact match but its a lot better than we had before !!!

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:46 pm
by Dutch_slith
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

p.s. what is a Korps Marcheausse ?

full name Korps Marechausse te voet is an elite infantry unit of KNIL. It was created to suppress the revolts in Aceh.
Trained for jungle fighting, their doctrine was search and destroy. Used brutal methods. Was very effective. Only the best regular infantrymen were allowed to join the Korps. A squad was up to 20 men strong, but by 1941 the veldbataljons on Java got first priority, so their strength had dropped to 15 men/squad. Most of the fighting in northern Sumatra was done by them.

Squad size was 15 men, 14 Rifles and 1 Thompson SMG OR 1 Schmeisser SMG OR 1 Madsen LMG.

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:49 pm
by Andy Mac
OK so there are now two elite Dutch units interesting !! (the other is the Marine Bn)

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:51 pm
by Dutch_slith
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

OK I will have a look I need to translate on the fly as we have a load of new bases on Java and Sumatra so I am redeploying as I write down.

p.s. I assume you are ok with me using your research - I need to modiify it to fit within parameters accross nations but I am adapting your stuff to be the new Dutch baseline.

I am slavishly rewriting whole sections of the Dutch OOB based on your data - it wont be an exact match but its a lot better than we had before !!!

Feel free to change as much as AE requires... [&o]

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:57 pm
by Andy Mac
I am starting the Tapanoeli Det. at Sawaloento is that a reasonable approx ?
ORIGINAL: Harald Velemans

Territorial Command Westkust Sumatra and Tapanoeli LTC J.H.M. Blogg

as of mid Januari '42

Padang/Emmahaven Garrison CPT J.W. Stemfoort
Padang:
2 Coys (regulars), one of these moved on to Fort de Kock in mid december.
1 Coy Stadswacht
Emmahaven:
1 Coy (regulars)
2 7,5cm CD guns
2 5in CD guns

Pakanbaroe Garrison MAJ C.F. Hazenberg
1 Coy (regulars) (from Padangpandjang, since mid december at Pakanbaroe)
1 Coy (regulars) (from Fort de Kock, since mid december at Pakanbaroe)
1 Coy european militia (originally from Padang, moved mid december to Padangpandjang, since mid januari at Pakanbaroe)
10 Vickers MMGs

Tapanoeli Garrison CPT J.C. Borgen
1 Coy (regulars)
6 squads at Padangsidempoean and Taroetong

Stadswacht/Landwacht Detachments, about 200 men

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:36 pm
by Andy Mac
Thanks Harald I have redone Sumatra its not quite as you have it as there are some things I need to do slightly differently

OK nobody shop me to Joe I am not supposed to post screenshots without permission but given all the good research Harald has provided.....

I put them into a Regimental type structure it might be better as a Bde not 100% sure yet... this is still WIP

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:37 pm
by Andy Mac
oops

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:51 pm
by Andy Mac
Dont ever say I am not good to you guys ....

Sumatra HQ is not in the actual game I just put it in to make it easier to sort the Sumatran based units only

All of these would be subordiante to KNIL Army Command on Java


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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:53 pm
by Andy Mac
The one I am unsure of is the 2nd WS Bn it may need to be removed as superfluous now

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:09 pm
by Dutch_slith
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I am starting the Tapanoeli Det. at Sawaloento is that a reasonable approx ?

Sibolga!

RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:12 pm
by Andy Mac
Ah so it replaces the Bn good o