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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:51 pm
by Canoerebel
6/25/44

Death Star: Course change ordered to increase chances of battle, if that's what John wants. I also think this course will be unexpected, perhaps interfering with any notions of setting up an 8-hex strike.

I wouldn't be surprised if John loaded up his carriers with fighters in hopes of savaging Allied strike aircraft. He's done that before.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:50 pm
by CaptBeefheart
Congrats on the capture of Manila! Let the games begin...

Cheers,
CC

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:08 am
by Canoerebel
I had guesstimated Death Star at 2,000 aircraft. That's pretty accurate, based upon the count made. Here's what Death Star looks like:

CV: 12
CVL: 11
CVE: 29
Total: 52

Hellcats: 747
Corsairs: 312
F4F & FM: 489
DB: 191
TB: 419
Total: 2158 (not included the extra aircraft in storage on most of the carriers.

The Corsairs, Wildcats, and FM Wildcats are uniformly set to range 0. The Hellcats are set to range 6.
The divebombers are set to range 6.
The torpedo bombers are set to range 6. Many are flying ASW missions at 10% to 40%.

The emphasis is on defense, due to concerns about enemy LBA combining with KB (but not tomorrow, due to range from enemy airfields). Luzon (and the DEI) have a lot of strike squadrons available for carrier duty, should that become desirable.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:22 am
by JeffroK
Well Done, but do you need Bataan to use Manila??

Plus, can your LBA using drop tanks upset his mythical 8 hex strike??

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:02 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Dirtnap86

As a native of Augusta, GA, I'm pretty happy that Sherman spared my city on his march. Pretty interesting that he did, considering the powder mill we had back then. After the war they were converted into textile factories and now house a set of luxury (as luxurious as it gets in Augusta) townhome apartments. The Riverwalk down the Savannah is absolutely gorgeous in the springtime, though the Master's golf tournament can go hang. I know it brings a ton of money to the city every year but ye gods the number of out of towners that clog up the roads worse than they already are...
You do know there is a nuke lying in said Savannah River, don't you?

I didn't know there was a nuke in the Savannah River. I know a US bomber jettisoned a nuke in the '50s (I think) and that it lies just off the Georgia coast, near Savannah. Is that what you're referring to, or is there a nuke in the river too?
That's the one I was referring to. The coastal marshes of the Savannah River have been searched heavily, and last I heard there was a theory the bomb landed in the river instead of the marshland. I don't know how far Augusta National Golf Course is from the coast, but I note that all the golfers at the Masters seemed to be wearing dark glasses to protect against radiation ... [8|]

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:37 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
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You do know there is a nuke lying in said Savannah River, don't you?

I didn't know there was a nuke in the Savannah River. I know a US bomber jettisoned a nuke in the '50s (I think) and that it lies just off the Georgia coast, near Savannah. Is that what you're referring to, or is there a nuke in the river too?
That's the one I was referring to. The coastal marshes of the Savannah River have been searched heavily, and last I heard there was a theory the bomb landed in the river instead of the marshland. I don't know how far Augusta National Golf Course is from the coast, but I note that all the golfers at the Masters seemed to be wearing dark glasses to protect against radiation ... [8|]
IIRC that one is a bomb without the nuke core inside it.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:44 am
by Canoerebel
There was news on that sometime last year. I think the bomb is in the coastal waters SE of Savannah (not in the river). I think it is nuclear.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:34 am
by paullus99

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:44 am
by Canoerebel
Just to clarify, an air force pilot did jettison a nuke just off the Georgia coast: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=18587608

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:41 am
by paullus99
That's true - didn't mean to imply otherwise.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:01 am
by Canoerebel
I understood but figured some folks lightly following the thread might not.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:56 am
by Lecivius
Simple curiosity from the feeble minded. Why are you breaking up you DD's covering Miri? I thought a Fletcher group of 6-8 ships was optimum?

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:01 pm
by Canoerebel
Just a hunch, and I'm not sure it's the right way to do it. I have one TF patrolling at Miri, one a hex to the NW, subs closing in, and SBDs set to naval strike. I don't have enough experience to know if my way of doing it has any advantages, but I just prefer two three-DD TFs as opposed to one larger TF. I do wish I had a six-DD TF and a three-DD TF present.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:03 pm
by Canoerebel
6/26/44

Battle of Luzon: John is working feverishly to Dunkirk. He's withdrawn 25k of 150k troops ashore. He should have one more "clear" turn before Death Star arrives. He's posted lots of CAP at San Fernando. Allied fighters did a decent job of whittling them down before the B-29s hit. Tomorrow, fresh fighters will sweep and nearly all 4EB will hit the airfield. The day after tomorrow, Death Star will be in position to impose a blockade.

This new mission has taken precedence over the invasion of Mindanao. But John's putting so much effort into this that it must be a very high priority.

Miri: John's BBs stood away today, but will probably hit tomorrow.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:55 pm
by MakeeLearn


what are the DL's of the J and A carrier TFs?

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:03 pm
by Canoerebel
There's no way to tell detection level on enemy TFs, is there? I have them pretty-well spotted over multiple turns, so I think the info is fairly accurate. Only John would know the detection levels on his TFs, though.

My carriers TFs don't report any detection, but every turn they down some search planes. So John knows where they are.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:06 pm
by MakeeLearn
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

There's no way to tell detection level on enemy TFs, is there? I have them pretty-well spotted over multiple turns, so I think the info is fairly accurate. Only John would know the detection levels on his TFs, though.

My carriers TFs don't report any detection, but every turn they down some search planes. So John knows where they are.

Doh... thinking of bases, how much FOW is with DLs. Can it show that ones' TK is low DL, but it is actually higher.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:09 pm
by Canoerebel
I think detection level on one's own TFs is accurate. I've never noticed any FOW, and I always assume that the information is rock-solid.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:10 pm
by MakeeLearn
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I think detection level on one's own TFs is accurate. I've never noticed any FOW, and I always assume that the information is rock-solid.


GTK

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:04 pm
by JohnDillworth
Fletcher task forces work well with 3 ships when raiding or attacking convoys. Against a combat TF 6-8 will work better. 2 ship TFs can raid deep and are harder to detext