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A nice day it will appear to be with the sun shining - shining somewhere that is![:D]

Yesterday we had the first day of the month with any sun showing at all. 6 minutes of sun according to official statistics. [X(] [:(]

A whole 6 minutes! Don't overdue it the first day.

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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Well, that Dame Holmes is a Lady and if she is married the rules state that the husband does not gain the title.

Prince Phillip is referred to as a consort.

He might very well be referred to as a consort. But he isn't one. He is a Prince of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and he is the husband of Queen Elizabeth II. He is not a Price consort.

Besides, you can refer to Ladies who are married to men with titles as is the consorts as well. Queen consort, for example. The term, and title, consort is antiquated in my humble opinion.

He is still the consort. He was given the titles of Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich before his wedding. He became a prince in England later. He had previously given up his on royal titles.

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He might very well be referred to as a consort. But he isn't one. He is a Prince of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and he is the husband of Queen Elizabeth II. He is not a Price consort.

Besides, you can refer to Ladies who are married to men with titles as is the consorts as well. Queen consort, for example. The term, and title, consort is antiquated in my humble opinion.

He is still the consort. He was given the titles of Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich before his wedding. He became a prince in England later. He had previously given up his on royal titles.

You've heard of the Principality of Sealand? You can buy yourself a title there. https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-lo ... -baroness/

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He is still the consort. He was given the titles of Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich before his wedding. He became a prince in England later. He had previously given up his on royal titles.

You've heard of the Principality of Sealand? You can buy yourself a title there. https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-lo ... -baroness/

Yes. And what is a title no one recognizes worth? You can buy a title from me if you want. I've heard of people selling stars...

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You've heard of the Principality of Sealand? You can buy yourself a title there. https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-lo ... -baroness/

Yes. And what is a title no one recognizes worth? You can buy a title from me if you want. I've heard of people selling stars...

Would your Principality be named Ormland? Are the citizens Ormlanders or Ormsters? Should we address you as Your Royal Ormness?

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He might very well be referred to as a consort. But he isn't one. He is a Prince of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and he is the husband of Queen Elizabeth II. He is not a Price consort.

Besides, you can refer to Ladies who are married to men with titles as is the consorts as well. Queen consort, for example. The term, and title, consort is antiquated in my humble opinion.

He is still the consort. He was given the titles of Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich before his wedding. He became a prince in England later. He had previously given up his on royal titles.

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, is not a consort. You may very well call him anything you so please. But he is officially not a consort.


Cut from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_consort

As a title rather than description, "Prince Consort" is unique to Prince Albert. The title was awarded to him in 1857 by his wife, Queen Victoria. Before Prince Albert, there had only been five English, Scottish, or British male consorts, whose titles varied widely. Mary I of England's husband Philip was declared king jure uxoris and given powers equal to his wife, but Queen Anne's husband Prince George of Denmark received no British titles other than the Dukedom of Cumberland (his princely title being Danish). Meanwhile, the official title of the three husbands of Mary, Queen of Scots was never fully resolved. At least one (Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley), was declared king consort, and both he and his predecessor Francis II of France sought recognition as king jure uxoris, but the title and powers of the consort were a constant issue during Mary's reign and remained unresolved when Mary was captured and executed. The only male consort since Prince Albert's death, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (consort of Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth realms), was made a peer and later a Prince of the United Kingdom but is not titled as Prince Consort.

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I never stated that he as titled as Prince Consort, only that he is a consort. He earned his own recognition for his actions during World War II as a British Naval Officer where he was ordered to serve.

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A nice day it will appear to be with the sun shining - shining somewhere that is![:D]

Yesterday we had the first day of the month with any sun showing at all. 6 minutes of sun according to official statistics. [X(] [:(]

A whole 6 minutes! Don't overdue it the first day.
I saw a sci-fi movie where they only has 15 minutes of sun every day.

Zorch: Would your Principality be named Ormland? Are the citizens Ormlanders or Ormsters? Should we address you as Your Royal Ormness?

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I never stated that he as titled as Prince Consort, only that he is a consort. He earned his own recognition for his actions during World War II as a British Naval Officer where he was ordered to serve.

I know you did. That is why I said that you may call him what you want. What you call him, however, does not make him a consort. The fact is that he is not a consort.

1. A husband or wife, especially the spouse of a monarch.
2. A companion or partner.
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4. A ship accompanying another in travel.
5. Partnership; association: governed in consort with her advisers.
6. A group; a company: a consort of fellow diplomats.
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When I was flying on C-130s we did a routine resupply flight to Alert, NWT well above the Arctic Circle (the northernmost permanently inhabited place in the world) in late February or early March. While we were unloading there was a faint glimmer of pre-dawn light on the horizon, but not actual sunrise. The Alert cargo handlers who were helping unload stopped and stared at the horizon for 15 minutes until the light disappeared again. Knowing they had not seen sunlight for at least four months, we did not begrudge them the delay in unloading the aircraft!

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I never stated that he as titled as Prince Consort, only that he is a consort. He earned his own recognition for his actions during World War II as a British Naval Officer where he was ordered to serve.

I know you did. That is why I said that you may call him what you want. What you call him, however, does not make him a consort. The fact is that he is not a consort.

The fact is, he is a consort by definition of the word:

1. A husband or wife, especially the spouse of a monarch.
2. A companion or partner.
.
.
.
4. A ship accompanying another in travel.
5. Partnership; association: governed in consort with her advisers.
6. A group; a company: a consort of fellow diplomats.
.
.
.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/consorts

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I know you did. That is why I said that you may call him what you want. What you call him, however, does not make him a consort. The fact is that he is not a consort.

The fact is, he is a consort by definition of the word:

1. A husband or wife, especially the spouse of a monarch.
2. A companion or partner.
.
.
.
4. A ship accompanying another in travel.
5. Partnership; association: governed in consort with her advisers.
6. A group; a company: a consort of fellow diplomats.
.
.
.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/consorts

I could agree that using it as a word for husband, or partner, or companion, or wife. Then that is, I suppose, correct. That word, I suggest, is not the common word used for husband. I once again suggest that the term consort is antiquated in regards to Royal families.

Besides, your original point was that men didn't get titles from their wife. Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, clearly got his titles from marrying his wife. He would neither be Prince of the United Kingdom, nor the Duke of Edinburgh, if he had not married.

I also like to point out that females that got their titles from marrying Royalty was once also called consorts.

And with all that said. Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, is not a consort. He is a Prince of the United Kingdom.

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The fact is, he is a consort by definition of the word:





https://www.thefreedictionary.com/consorts

I could agree that using it as a word for husband, or partner, or companion, or wife. Then that is, I suppose, correct. That word, I suggest, is not the common word used for husband. I once again suggest that the term consort is antiquated in regards to Royal families.

Besides, your original point was that men didn't get titles from their wife. Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, clearly got his titles from marrying his wife. He would neither be Prince of the United Kingdom, nor the Duke of Edinburgh, if he had not married.

I also like to point out that females that got their titles from marrying Royalty was once also called consorts.

And with all that said. Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, is not a consort. He is a Prince of the United Kingdom.

He is still a consort, by definition. While he may not have his British titles if he had not married who he did, he was a Prince and in fact did not have a surname until he took one from his family tree. The surname that he took is Mountbatten - if you have ever heard of it. BTW, he and his wife are distant cousins through the British Royal Line.