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Posted: **Sat Jan 05, 2002 7:12 pm**

hi everybody
I'm playing pacwar now but earlier i played as the germans in WIR.
while my first year in 1940 went as it should my second year was really weird. I decided to live Stalingrad alone and push on Moscow. It was trully a clash of titans.In the very first battle in the offensive i had three panzer corps attacking together with a total of 120000+ men and about 900 tanks against 70000 men and 200 tanks. and in the air i had one air battle with close to 700 planes on each side. but sometime in august things began to change. Russian armies were striking deep into my reat and I was cutting them off very easily and destroying them. their losses were so serious that at the end of september I practicaly walked into Moscow. Can I make them stop using suicidal tactics and make surrounded armies fight harder because it makes the game ridiculously easy and no fun. also after the capture of Moscow I discovered to my amazement that there were still tons of factories there. Why weren't they moved? Is version 3.101 simply bad?

Posted: **Sun Jan 06, 2002 7:11 pm**

I think it is unbalanced as do many other players here.
thus the interest in possum wir and mist wir.

Posted: **Mon Jan 07, 2002 12:40 am**

Originally posted by Pirate:
hi everybody
I'm playing pacwar now but earlier i played as the germans in WIR.
while my first year in 1940 went as it should my second year was really weird. I decided to live Stalingrad alone and push on Moscow. It was trully a clash of titans.In the very first battle in the offensive i had three panzer corps attacking together with a total of 120000+ men and about 900 tanks against 70000 men and 200 tanks. and in the air i had one air battle with close to 700 planes on each side. but sometime in august things began to change. Russian armies were striking deep into my reat and I was cutting them off very easily and destroying them. their losses were so serious that at the end of september I practicaly walked into Moscow. Can I make them stop using suicidal tactics and make surrounded armies fight harder because it makes the game ridiculously easy and no fun. also after the capture of Moscow I discovered to my amazement that there were still tons of factories there. Why weren't they moved? Is version 3.101 simply bad?

I don't know if you've noticed, but v3.101 is a vast improvement over v1.0. The problem you're having is with the AI, the most complex and complicated part of the program. Because of that, Arnaud hasn't done any work to improve it, but quite frankly, when he does try I don't expect him to succeed any more than Gary Grigsby did himself, he too failed to make the AI worth playing against for experienced players.

If you want a real challenge play against a human, because for the best players, playing against the AI is a boring waste of time. Against a human you'll see the improvements in v3.101.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:02 am**

what's possum wir and mist wir?
i just started posting in this forum a short time ago so i don't really know this things.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2002 3:58 pm**

Originally posted by Pirate:
what's possum wir and mist wir?
i just started posting in this forum a short time ago so i don't really know this things.

These are alternate versions of the '41 campaign scenario, meant to be more balanced and accurate, at least in the minds of their authors.

Both versions, camp41v1 and wirp, are here:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/lokiwir/lst?.dir=/My+Documents