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Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:56 pm
by seydlitz_slith
I picked up an out of print book called "Ship Strike: The history of air-to-sea weapon systems" in a used book store yesterday. Very good reading, with lots of interesting details on the development of the torpedo plane, torpedo, and air to surface guided missile. The book had some pictures that I had never seen before that just begged to be shared with the forum.
Here is the first..... A float plane variant of the Devastator TBD.

RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:00 pm
by DuckofTindalos
It almost looks better than the wheeled version... Like it's meant to have a fat pair of floats.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:09 pm
by seydlitz_slith
Here is a picture of a Dutch Navy Fokker T IV of 1927.

RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:24 pm
by seydlitz_slith
I just realised that I over cropped the Devastator picture.
Here is the complete picture that shows the plane launching a torpedo.
The caption states: " The Douglas TBD Devastator was tried out as a floatplane and is here seen dropping her torpedo on trials."

RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:29 pm
by Onime No Kyo
Wow that Fokker is an *ss-ugly plane. [X(]
Now we need to strap a pair of floats on a Vindicator and see what happens.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:36 pm
by spence
With floats and lugging a torpedo the TBD must have had a speed of about 50 kts.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:43 pm
by Onime No Kyo
Excellent torp launching platform. Its so much easier to launch when your forward velocity is countearacted by a stiff headwind.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:06 pm
by KDonovan
wow the TIVA is as ugly as it looks in WITP
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:11 pm
by DuckofTindalos
It's even uglier with that hump...
And people call the Barracuda ugly.[8|]
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:17 pm
by Onime No Kyo
It was ugly, but slightly less so than the Skua.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:18 pm
by DuckofTindalos
The Roc was uglier than the Skua...
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:23 pm
by Onime No Kyo
I think the Skua's worse.
The next question is whether the Poles ripped the PZL-11's looks off the I-153 or if they made it ugly all by themselves.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:28 pm
by Yava
Themselves... Chaika prototypes were produced in 1938... while PZL P-11 in 1931
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:31 pm
by Onime No Kyo
Ah. So the Russians borrowed the uglyness.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:40 pm
by DuckofTindalos
The PZL-11 was actually pretty good-looking for a high-gullwing monoplane fighter.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:08 pm
by spence
good-looking for a high-gullwing monoplane
Which is the epitome of ugliness.
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:16 pm
by Onime No Kyo
<applause> [:)]
RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:57 pm
by seydlitz_slith
Here is a Wildebeeste II launching it's torp. I'd bet that a swift ship could turn into the wind at flank speed and make the bomber run out of fuel before it hit the release point.

RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:00 pm
by seydlitz_slith
Here is the Martin AM-1 Mauler, developed too late to fight in the War. Imagine the jolt when you released all three torps at the same time.

RE: Devastator Float Plane
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:02 pm
by seydlitz_slith
Here is the Consolidated TBY-2 Sea Wolf, that was developed to replace the Grumman Avenger. Less than 200 were built, and they were only used for training. None saw action.
