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Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:51 am
by SMK-at-work
I've been playing "Into the Reich", and have read the review of another scenario posted in the AAR forum, but they seem to have major problems - eg ITR has a OOB where each division seesm to represent a regiment in some theatres (such as Nth Africa - the Afrika Korps/Panzer Armee Afrika appears with about 10 tank and mechanised divisions, the Italians start with about 20 divisions there....)....
so I'm in hte market for a more "realistic" ww2 scenario if there's one about?
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:05 am
by Veers
Yes. There is one, the greatest one; Europe Aflame. It is the definitive scenario for WWII in Europe for TOAW.
It is avaialble here...
http://www.xtreme-gamer.com/forums/show ... 28691...at the bottom of the page.
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:30 pm
by Curtis Lemay
It is included with TOAW III. Find it in the WWII-Misc. folder.
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:01 pm
by SMK-at-work
lol - thanks I'll have a look!
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:32 pm
by kfmiller41
you better have ALOT of time on your hands though[:D]
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:48 pm
by Veers
Ahh...Curt, good point, but I think that Mark has come out with an upgraded version since TOAW III came out...if memory serves.
Miller41 has a good point. Also, you need a human opponent, as it is far too complex to have the PO work.
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:25 pm
by FaneFlugt
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:33 pm
by SMK-at-work
Eek...yes - not sure I'm going to be alive long enough to play that!!
I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment - I havent' seen anything like that around the traps - perhaps I need to develop an interest in creating scenarios!!
Let's see.....use the map from ITR, can get a WW1 OOB easy enough (a WW1 one would be good too...
), WW2 OOB a bit harder but not impossible.....
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:49 am
by golden delicious
ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work
Eek...yes - not sure I'm going to be alive long enough to play that!!
I'd really like a corps level one rather than division
...Europe aflame
is corps level.
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:58 am
by rhinobones
ORIGINAL: golden delicious...Europe aflame is corps level.
Think you missed his point. He was stating that . . .
"I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment"
I take "entertainment" to be equavilent to having "fun".
Surely you must admit, TOAW at the Corps level as defined above, is the same as having "fun".
Best Regards, RhinoBones
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:26 am
by SMK-at-work
I play everythign for "fun"[8D]
But I know that I prefer games where I don't have to worry about moving anti-tank battalians around to counter armoured thrusts, and preferably with few enough counters so I can do several moves in a night - I'm already playing a game of FitE, and that's way too low level for me. Into the Reich does away with a lot of the support units and isn't too bead - even tho it's only at "Dvision" level, but the OOB's seem a bit dodgy.......a French Panzer Legion in Dec 1941 and the Afrika Korps/Pz Armee Afrika of a dozen or so German Divisions??[&:][&:]
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:16 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work
Eek...yes - not sure I'm going to be alive long enough to play that!!
I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment - I havent' seen anything like that around the traps - perhaps I need to develop an interest in creating scenarios!!
Let's see.....use the map from ITR, can get a WW1 OOB easy enough (a WW1 one would be good too...
), WW2 OOB a bit harder but not impossible.....
If that's your taste, I've got a couple of "beer & pretzel" scale scenarios in the TOAW III collection you might want to take a look at: "Germany 1945" and "Soviet Union 1941". Both are Corps/Army @ 50km/hex.
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:28 pm
by TOCarroll
There is also a divisional level "Beer & Pretzels" European theater sceanario (I got it at Rugged Defense). Don't let the scale fool you-it's fast and fun. I'm trying to remember the name....."World War Two" if you look in Rugged Defense, the blurb (on the left), will contain the phrase "Beer & Pretzels" [:'(], and will go on to explain that the designer wanted to model A/H's "Third Reich". It also has a PO.
Other possibilities include "Inside The Reich", and "The 4th Repbulic" (Which is hypothetical. Both have a PO, and provide an entertaing game. [:D] WARNING: Do NOT try 4th Repbulic unless you want the PO to kick you ass the first time around.[:-]
RE: Is there a good War in Europe scenario?
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:11 pm
by golden delicious
ORIGINAL: rhinobones
Think you missed his point. He was stating that . . .
"I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment"
This following on from his remark that he wouldn't have enough time to play the scenario. Thus I figured that he thought the scenario was too large and was asking for one that was corps level. Since there are quite a lot of divisions and smaller units in Europe Aflame, one could be forgiven at a cursory glance for not noticing that corps dominate.
