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114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:43 am
by captskillet
October 5, 1892

The Dalton Gang is wiped out in Coffeyville, Kansas

On this day in 1892, the famous Dalton Gang attempts the daring daylight robbery of two Coffeyville, Kansas, banks at the same time. But if the gang members believed the sheer audacity of their plan would bring them success, they were sadly mistaken. Instead, they were nearly all killed by quick-acting townspeople.

For a year and a half, the Dalton Gang had terrorized the state of Oklahoma, mostly concentrating on train holdups. Though the gang had more murders than loot to their credit, they had managed to successfully evade the best efforts of Oklahoma law officers to bring them to justice. Perhaps success bred overconfidence, but whatever their reasons, the gang members decided to try their hand at robbing not just one bank, but at robbing the First National and Condon Banks in their old hometown of Coffeyville at the same time.

After riding quietly into town, the men tied their horses to a fence in an alley near the two banks and split up. Two of the Dalton brothers-Bob and Emmett-headed for the First National, while Grat Dalton led Dick Broadwell and Bill Powers in to the Condon Bank. Unfortunately for the Daltons, someone recognized one of the gang members and began quietly spreading the word that the town banks were being robbed. Thus, while Bob and Emmett were stuffing money into a grain sack, the townspeople ran for their guns and quickly surrounded the two banks. When the Dalton brothers walked out of the bank, a hail of bullets forced them back into the building. Regrouping, they tried to flee out the back door of the bank, but the townspeople were waiting for them there as well.

Meanwhile, in the Condon Bank a brave cashier had managed to delay Grat Dalton, Powers, and Broadwell with the classic claim that the vault was on a time lock and couldn't be opened. That gave the townspeople enough time to gather force, and suddenly a bullet smashed through the bank window and hit Broadwell in the arm. Quickly scooping up $1,500 in loose cash, the three men bolted out the door and fled down a back alley. But like their friends next door, they were immediately shot and killed, this time by a local livery stable owner and a barber.

When the gun battle was over, the people of Coffeyville had destroyed the Dalton Gang, killing every member except for Emmett Dalton. But their victory was not without a price: the Dalton's took four townspeople to their graves with them. After recovering from serious wounds, Emmett was tried and sentenced to life in prison. After 14 years he won parole, and he eventually leveraged his cachet as a former Wild West bandit into a position as a screenwriter in Hollywood. Several years after moving to California, he died at the age of 66 in 1937.


RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:58 am
by fabertong
Fascinating Capt...........thanks........I wonder what films he had a hand in writing................

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:29 am
by SamCole
Try here: emmett linky

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:03 pm
by fabertong
Thanks Sam.................

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:25 pm
by Mike Scholl
"Though the gang had more murders than loot to their credit..."


I think based on your own statement here you might have used the term "infamous" rather than "famous Dalton Gang". These guys come more under the heading of "greedy viscious thugs" than "Robin Hoods".

And it seems a bit of a disservice to the real "heroes" of the day that while you name the outlaws, you dismiss them as "a brave cashier" and "four townspeople". You might at least give them the courtesy of their own names.

Not picking on you in particular...., it's just that we Americans have a tendency to glorify our scum while ignoring the folks who really made this country great. Probably too much "Hollywood" in our "History".

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:29 pm
by Raverdave
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

"Though the gang had more murders than loot to their credit..."


I think based on your own statement here you might have used the term "infamous" rather than "famous Dalton Gang". These guys come more under the heading of "greedy viscious thugs" than "Robin Hoods".

And it seems a bit of a disservice to the real "heroes" of the day that while you name the outlaws, you dismiss them as "a brave cashier" and "four townspeople". You might at least give them the courtesy of their own names.

Not picking on you in particular...., it's just that we Americans have a tendency to glorify our scum while ignoring the folks who really made this country great. Probably too much "Hollywood" in our "History".


Happens here as well Mike......Ned Kelly is seen as "hero" [8|]

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:29 pm
by captskillet
Mike I didn't write this...........just passing it along.

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:34 pm
by panda124c
I see things have not changed much, you get busted, go to prision, get parole, write a book or movie, get rich. [:-]

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:15 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: pbear

I see things have not changed much, you get busted, go to prision, get parole, write a book or movie, get rich. [:-]
I wonder if he has made a movie about himself. Mike Scholl's comment not withstanding it would make a good movie.

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:24 pm
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: pbear

I see things have not changed much, you get busted, go to prision, get parole, write a book or movie, get rich. [:-]
I wonder if he has made a movie about himself. Mike Scholl's comment not withstanding it would make a good movie.


Emmet died in the Thirties before Hollywood started glorifying Western "bad guys"---they had just discovered "Gangsters" as heros (Edward G Robinson and others started their carreers this way).
But yes, there have been some movies about the Dalton Gang, including one fairly accurate one.

RE: 114 Years ago today............

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:27 am
by ilovestrategy
bah! Captskillet is my hero, names or not! [&o]