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Or do I misundestand the land combat mechanism ?

Hi, against enemy with less then 3 forts it should. However sometimes units do not surrender regardless of odds. In most cases odds of enemy fort level plus 2 should do the trick.

ORIGINAL: Hartley

Or do I misundestand the land combat mechanism ?

If your fighting in a hex which does not contain a base and the enemy have no retreat path then odds of 100's:1 will not cause them to retreat or surrender

ORIGINAL: mantill

ORIGINAL: Hartley

Or do I misundestand the land combat mechanism ?

If your fighting in a hex which does not contain a base and the enemy have no retreat path then odds of 100's:1 will not cause them to retreat or surrender

Or the massively outnumbered troops are Japanese.

Basically, the only forces that will retreat/surrender they way you would expect all troops to are Allied forces in bases.

Ground combat at Lingayen
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 28420 troops, 224 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397
 
Defending force 1260 troops, 0 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 38
 
Japanese max assault: 360 - adjusted assault: 216
 
Allied max defense: 34 - adjusted defense: 3
 
Japanese assault odds: 72 to 1
 
 
Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Allied ground losses:
1447 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 94
 
[8|][X(][:'(][:D][:)][8D] 

ORIGINAL: scott1964

Ground combat at Lingayen

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28420 troops, 224 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397

Defending force 1260 troops, 0 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Japanese max assault: 360 - adjusted assault: 216

Allied max defense: 34 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 72 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1447 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 94

[8|][X(][:'(][:D][:)][8D] 

Wow - I didn't know this. I've never seen it B4. It's amazing the thing I learn in this forum <GRIN>.

normal situation
even chinae are able to withstand for a long time odds leveling 10:1 and few days at 50:1

You just have to keep attacking them, they will fold up before long.

Yeah those guy were last seen sitting on the beach witha BBQ, the next day we attacked and they just surrendered.&nbsp;[:'(][:D][:'(]

ORIGINAL: mantill

If your fighting in a hex which does not contain a base and the enemy have no retreat path then odds of 100's:1 will not cause them to retreat or surrender

I've had odds of well over 200-1 trying to defeat Japanese base defenders and they still don't budge. You just have to keep hitting them until they finally decide to retreat.

remember that the modified combat odds don't directly represent the current state of the LCU in terms of damage, so 100:1 or 200:1 odds, if the unit has not reached the critical point of damage where it disintegrates, it will hold out. Keep an eye on the final adjusted defense value. Thats a better indicator.