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Siam Pro-Allied?

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:40 pm
by Protagonist
In one PBEM game I am playing, I am playing Japan and have been facing a Pro-Allied Siam. Is that ever possible? Germany took Eastern France to create Vichy France in Turn 4 (Spring 1940). I just completed turn 8 (Spring 1941).

I believe the bug happened because when Germany attacked Denmark, Siam became Allied-Leaning. Then maybe when Germany took the Low Countries in Winter 1940 (or when something else happened in Winter 1940) it changed from Allied-Leaning to Pro-Allied. It has stayed at Pro-Allied since then, including when Vichy was created. I am not playing Germany so I cannot tell exactly what happened in Winter 1940 so I don't know what happened. But I thought it always goes back to Axis-Leaning when Vichy is created (which it did not).

RE: Siam Pro-Allied?

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:44 pm
by Joel Billings
Gary found in the code that if Siam is Pro-Allied when Vichy is declared, then it will not switch to Leaning Axis. This will be fixed in the first patch.

RE: Siam Pro-Allied?

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:31 am
by Petiloup
ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Gary found in the code that if Siam is Pro-Allied when Vichy is declared, then it will not switch to Leaning Axis. This will be fixed in the first patch.

Why should it be patched, if Siam goes Allied Leaning because of a Free Trade Agreement and then goes Pro-Allies because of political results from declaring wars to other neutrals then let it be. Siam was nowhere embracing Japan in it's policy of conquest just playing safe and once Japan was loosing it manage to put the so called "resistance" into power. Very smart way of playing both side and loosing nothing.

Now what is some politician decides to side with the Allies for whatever reasons? That's Politics, as said for Hungary staying neutral (in another post) this is due to the new political system.

RE: Siam Pro-Allied?

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:41 pm
by Joel Billings
It is supposed to represent that when Vichy was created the French lost influence in Southeast Asia. Japan was able to move in and put pressure on the various countries in a way they could not do when France was still a power. The situation in Siam could be argued either way. Gary adjusted the code to make it match the manual, although I can see there being an arguement to change the manual to match the way the code was working.