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I just loaded the game for a look before going to bed and I'm curious - what happened to Missouri? When you look at the map with all the governors, there's a big blank where Missouri is. I couldn't find anything related to Missouri in the game. Did we miss the 13th Confederate state?

Odd. Which scenario are you playing?

I would think that you don't have a governor because the Union controls the state capital

The individuals who can appear as a USA or CSA governor of Missouri are: Hamilton Gamble, Claiborne Jackson, Willard Hall, B. Gratz Brown, and Thomas C. Reynolds. Are you seeing any of those guys on the governors map? And what about when you click on the "Governors" link on the main strategic screen? Does a Missouri governor appear there? (He only would if you're playing the USA.)

On the normal scenario, Missouri is a Union state.

Yes. This came up a few months ago. The reason is that by Nov. 1861 the Union held the state capital, and the exiled pro-CSA governor was in the southwest corner of the state. A fundamental rule in FOF is that whichever side controls the capital controls the state, so Missouri absolutely must start as a Union state in Nov. 1861, even if it wasn't 100% Union the way Michigan or Vermont was.

I can't remember how we handled it in the July 1861 scenario, to be honest.

ORIGINAL: Grifman

Did we miss the 13th Confederate state?

Not to split hairs but,the Confederate Congress admitted Missouri as the 12th confederate state on November 28, 1861. [:D]
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An act declaring the political ties heretofore existing between the State of Missouri and the United States of America dissolved.

Whereas the Government of the United States, in the possession and under the control of a sectional party, has wantonly violated the compact originally made between said Government and the State of Missouri, by invading with hostile armies the soil of the State, attacking and making prisoners the militia while legally assembled under the State laws, forcibly occupying the State capitol, and attempting through the instrumentality of domestic traitors to usurp the State government, seizing and destroying private property, and murdering with fiendish malignity peaceable citizens, men, women, and children, together with other acts of atrocity, indicating a deep-settled hostility toward the people of Missouri and their institutions; and

Whereas the present Administration of the Government of the United States has utterly ignored the Constitution, subverted the Government as constructed and intended by its makers, and established a despotic and arbitrary power instead thereof: Now, therefore,

Be it enacted by the general assembly of the State of Missouri, That all political ties of every character new existing between the Government of the United States of America and the people and government of the State of Missouri are hereby dissolved, and the State of Missouri, resuming the sovereignty granted by compact to the said United States upon admission of said State into the Federal Union, does again take its place as a free and independent republic amongst the nations of the earth.

This act to take effect and be in force from and after its passage.

Approved, October 31, 1861.


Mo Reb

give em a break gang

this is the end of the first turn report

Coming from a line of Missouri Confederates, I agree with Missouri being dragooned into the Union in Nov. 1861.  By then, the St. Louis Germans had done their thing and the river was secure.  Of course, I hope the effects of guerillas are protrayed.  Haven't got my copy yet.

ORIGINAL: Bismarck

...Of course, I hope the effects of guerillas are protrayed.  Haven't got my copy yet.

The CSA player can build raiders and partisans.

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: Grifman

Did we miss the 13th Confederate state?

Not to split hairs but,the Confederate Congress admitted Missouri as the 12th confederate state on November 28, 1861. [:D]
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An act declaring the political ties heretofore existing between the State of Missouri and the United States of America dissolved.

Whereas the Government of the United States, in the possession and under the control of a sectional party, has wantonly violated the compact originally made between said Government and the State of Missouri, by invading with hostile armies the soil of the State, attacking and making prisoners the militia while legally assembled under the State laws, forcibly occupying the State capitol, and attempting through the instrumentality of domestic traitors to usurp the State government, seizing and destroying private property, and murdering with fiendish malignity peaceable citizens, men, women, and children, together with other acts of atrocity, indicating a deep-settled hostility toward the people of Missouri and their institutions; and

Whereas the present Administration of the Government of the United States has utterly ignored the Constitution, subverted the Government as constructed and intended by its makers, and established a despotic and arbitrary power instead thereof: Now, therefore,

Be it enacted by the general assembly of the State of Missouri, That all political ties of every character new existing between the Government of the United States of America and the people and government of the State of Missouri are hereby dissolved, and the State of Missouri, resuming the sovereignty granted by compact to the said United States upon admission of said State into the Federal Union, does again take its place as a free and independent republic amongst the nations of the earth.

This act to take effect and be in force from and after its passage.

Approved, October 31, 1861.


Mo Reb

Well,I know the first place you will liberate from tyrrany.[:'(]

Are there other scenerio start dates? Like June 1861? Or no?

ORIGINAL: flanyboy

Are there other scenerio start dates? Like June 1861? Or no?

We have a July 1861 (pre-Manassas) scenario which has a very different feel. We would like to add additional scenarios through patches, and will be very eager to hear people's thoughts on this. Perhaps once everyone has some playing experience under their belts someone can start a thread on the subject.

ORIGINAL: AU Tiger

Well,I know the first place you will liberate from tyrrany.[:'(]

Yeah...if I ever put the manual down and actually START playing. I always read the whole thing before I get cracking on the game. Silly me.

mo reb

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: AU Tiger

Well,I know the first place you will liberate from tyrrany.[:'(]

Yeah...if I ever put the manual down and actually START playing. I always read the whole thing before I get cracking on the game. Silly me.

mo reb

The same. Page 93 here.

By the way, how's the weather over there? We will be getting it soon.

Right now a couple inches of sleet with much snow to follow. Possibly 12 inches but more likely 5-9. I have tommorow off so I am so glad the game was released when it was. I see you did at least get the game finally. Let us study our tactics and litter the field with the federal invading scum?

mo reb

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

Right now a couple inches of sleet with much snow to follow. Possibly 12 inches but more likely 5-9. I have tommorow off so I am so glad the game was released when it was. I see you did at least get the game finally. Let us study our tactics and litter the field with the federal invading scum?

mo reb

Well its 38 here in S'port now AU.............they had some snow in Big D earlier (speaking of Big D.....How 'bout Tony Romo and them DALLAS COWBOYS!!!!!)...........good Duck Hunting weather [;)]!

ORIGINAL: Gil R.

Odd. Which scenario are you playing?

If you start the Basic Scenario, playing as the Rebs. On the first turn, go to the Overview screen, the one with the large national map. It shows all the states with portraits of their governors. Missouri is a big blank map area with no governor portrait.