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Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:18 pm
by Sardaukar
IIRC, 1.8.0.4 was supposed to address the problem with ships repairing all damage but leaving devices unrepaired. It seems that submarine device number 1(torpedo tubes) do not repair. Subs just sit in port with sys damage 1 for months and never repair. I have couple of subs that have that torpedo tube damage, sitting in various ports with AS ships, AR ships, large ports, repair shipyards etc. for 3 months game time, sys 1 damage and never repairing the device...even with *no* other damaged ships/subs in same port. I thought this was adressed, but it seems not to work.

Anyone else have this problem ? All other devices both in ships and subs repair, but not device 1 (torpedo tubes)in subs.

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:25 pm
by Ron Saueracker
I've only had problems with subs if the actual data base regarding the specific class is incorrect. The odd time a typo in a refit will result in a vessel with "damaged" weapons. Is this a minelaying sub (Dutch O19 and O20)?

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:29 pm
by Sardaukar
Nope, all US fleet boats, Tambor class, for example. It's CHS scen 160. All tubes were damaged in combat, too. Refits work fine. Trouble is, there are no refits left for those classes in late war so I could get rid of damage.

With earlier patch, they'd just sit in port with 0 sys dmg and not repair..now they just sit there with 1 sys dmg and not repair. Maybe it's that game was upgraded and not started under 1.8.0.4 ? (Probably the case, IMHO).

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:30 pm
by Ron Saueracker
Hmmmm[X(][&:]

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:53 pm
by jumper
I have this trouble with japanese sub. I-2 arrived at Tokyo 2 months ago with sys 20 and damaged torpedo tubes. It took only 1 month to get sys damage to 1, but that was the end. Now the sub is already sitting in the port with sys 1 and damaged tubes for about 40 days. I have also tried to move it to Kure, create/disband TF etc. Nothing helped...


And those tubes are in slot 1

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:07 pm
by Sardaukar
Aye. No problems with any other ships/devices than sub torpedo tubes in slot 1. Good to know I'm not the only one. I also have tried about anything, different ports etc...even kept in port as docked in TF to see if repair yard does it's work then (as it sometimes does for ships).

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:09 pm
by castor troy
This is a bad one. No difference in a sub sunk or a sub without torpedoe tubes... [8|]

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:27 pm
by Sardaukar
Well..other tubes are fine, so far....and it's actually quite rare to have this damage. I had about 4-5 in whole war...41-44 in my last game. And it repairs when sub upgrades. Just very problematic when there are no upgrades left...had 2 cases of that in my last game.

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:42 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Well..other tubes are fine, so far....and it's actually quite rare to have this damage. I had about 4-5 in whole war...41-44 in my last game. And it repairs when sub upgrades. Just very problematic when there are no upgrades left...had 2 cases of that in my last game.

bad for the Japanese, their subs never upgrade...

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:52 pm
by Sardaukar
I think they do in CHS...[:D] Just not as many times as US subs.

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:52 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

I think they do in CHS...[:D] Just not as many times as US subs.


yes, in CHS. They don“t in stock or in Nik mod... [:(]

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:02 pm
by BLurking
Same problem here - I've got 2 Glen-capable subs sitting in port for months (even sent them out to sea at flank speed to accrue more sys damage), but the tubes won't repair.

I can still use them for recon, but hate having ships out there that can't shoot back.

Of course, I'm entering the stage where the subs are being used for supply transport more and more also. Guess I know which ships will be assigned that particular task...

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:05 pm
by kilowatts
ORIGINAL: BLurking
Of course, I'm entering the stage where the subs are being used for supply transport more and more also. Guess I know which ships will be assigned that particular task...

You do know that it's all a conspiracy right? they are out to get you. The thread right below this one on the list is ... 'Sub transport won't load supply'.

See http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1326513

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:39 pm
by Gibbons
I'm having the same problem with some subs. As it seems we have to wait until their next upgrade, I've just relegated those subs to sub-minelaying. At least they're doing something.


Gibbons

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:01 pm
by viberpol
ORIGINAL: Gibbons

I'm having the same problem with some subs. As it seems we have to wait until their next upgrade, I've just relegated those subs to sub-minelaying. At least they're doing something.


Gibbons

I do have the same problem.. but I am not sure whether it is just a graphic/typo problem or the tubes are really damaged I might have seen the allegedly damaged subs launching torpedoes... or is it just my imagination..

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:17 pm
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: viberpol

I do have the same problem.. but I am not sure whether it is just a graphic/typo problem or the tubes are really damaged I might have seen the allegedly damaged subs launching torpedoes... or is it just my imagination..

Well..usually subs have more than one set of tubes in game (like rear tubes), so the can still launch even when one set is damaged. But if having only one set and still lauching when "red" it's then only graphics problems and good news.

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:07 pm
by Sardaukar
Well..doesn't seem so. 1 point of damage never gets repaired..and I suspect neither the torp tubes.

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:33 am
by JeffroK
Potentially dumb answer;
 
Is it looking for new production Torp Tubes to replace the damaged units??
 
It would make sense as a LCU item(AFV, GUn, Squad etc), sounds dumb for a sub though!!

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:45 pm
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: JeffK

Potentially dumb answer;

Is it looking for new production Torp Tubes to replace the damaged units??

It would make sense as a LCU item(AFV, GUn, Squad etc), sounds dumb for a sub though!!

Nope. Ship Devices are not in production like land devices and it doesn't look for them.

But now I'm surprised...started new game under 1.804 with BigB mod and had 2 subs with device 1 torpedo tube damage. I parked them to port with 100 repair shipyard..and this time they did repair... Never managed that before..gor figure. Maybe this affects games that have been started under earlier patches only ? I'll investigate further during this game.

RE: Trouble with sub device repair in 1.8.0.4

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:36 pm
by Sardaukar
OK..now they refuse to repair again...cannot see why...but it's annoying...[:@]