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New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:20 pm
by Gil R.
The initial release of "Forge of Freedom" provided just two scenarios: the "Standard" scenario set in November 1861 and the pre-Manassas/Bull Run scenario set in early July 1861. We have always planned to add more scenarios once the game had been released, and now we can begin to focus on this. While it is doubtful that we can add new scenarios to the next patch, there is a good possibility we might be able to do so for the one after that. Since WCS's staff is small, that patch would include just one or two, or perhaps three, new scenarios. So here's the key question: which scenarios would people most like to have?
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:54 pm
by andysomers
I would simply do a spring 1862, spring 1863, and spring 1864 start.
I can provide deployments and strengths if needed.
AS
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:44 pm
by genie144
I think a "Total Victory" scenario from '61 would be nice. Or simply make "Total Victory" an option instead of time.
Sam
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:51 pm
by slybelle
I would vote for one that depicts when Sumter happened or even before it.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:59 pm
by Gil R.
ORIGINAL: slybelle
I would vote for one that depicts when Sumter happened or even before it.
This one would involve a lot of programming -- it's not simply a matter of creating new OOB data files, since there would have to be mechanisms for secession, war breaking out, etc. Perhaps down the road in an expansion pack, but not for a patch in the next month or two.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:21 am
by elmo3
An East scenario and a West scenario come to mind. A split along the lines of Wisconsin - Indiana - Kentucky - Tennessee - Alabama and points west being in the West scenario and the rest in the East. Michigan might go either way depending on the best balance for the economics.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:46 am
by jonreb31
I think scenarios for the each year would be the best.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:48 am
by marecone
One where you start from the scratch would be nice. Maybe later if it is too much for this patch.
I like the idea for separated theatres.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:23 am
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: Gil R.
ORIGINAL: slybelle
I would vote for one that depicts when Sumter happened or even before it.
This one would involve a lot of programming -- it's not simply a matter of creating new OOB data files, since there would have to be mechanisms for secession, war breaking out, etc. Perhaps down the road in an expansion pack, but not for a patch in the next month or two.
While I still have high hopes of bringing the "Official Scenarios" more into line with historical reality to make them more competative, they will still need to keep some "bennies" on the Confederate side for "balance". But just for a "cold splash of reality" on the face of players who are feeling "too successful", how about a "totally realistic scenario" like you mentioned when describing the "testors first reactions" to the game as "research" had generated it? The one with the accurate OB and realistic economic assets for both sides. The one everyone complained about because the South "couldn't win". A scenario for the "dyed-in-the-cotten" Rebel Players to really challange themselves with---one with no Southern "freebies" and the North not having to fight with "one hand tied behind it's back". In other words, the "real" ACW.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:41 pm
by TheHellPatrol
ORIGINAL: genie144
I think a "Total Victory" scenario from '61 would be nice. Or simply make "Total Victory" an option instead of time.
Sam
You got my vote[:D].
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:13 pm
by Hertston
One that has the Brits and/or the French joining the Rebs at the start! [:D]
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:09 pm
by will b
An 1863, through November '64 scenario where the North has to be sucessful enough in surpressing the rebellion (i.e gain enough VP's) to allow Lincoln to win re-election.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:00 pm
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: Hertston
One that has the Brits and/or the French joining the Rebs at the start! [:D]
To be paired with the one that has Britian joining the Union to help stamp out slavery? It was illegal in the British Empire.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:08 am
by ericbabe
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
"bennies" on the Confederate side for "balance". But just for a "cold splash of reality" on the face of players who are feeling "too successful", how about a "totally realistic scenario" like you mentioned when describing the "testors first reactions" to the game as "research" had generated it? The one with the accurate OB and realistic economic assets for
I like this idea quite a bit.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:44 am
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: Gil R.
ORIGINAL: slybelle
I would vote for one that depicts when Sumter happened or even before it.
This one would involve a lot of programming -- it's not simply a matter of creating new OOB data files, since there would have to be mechanisms for secession, war breaking out, etc. Perhaps down the road in an expansion pack, but not for a patch in the next month or two.
While I still have high hopes of bringing the "Official Scenarios" more into line with historical reality to make them more competative, they will still need to keep some "bennies" on the Confederate side for "balance". But just for a "cold splash of reality" on the face of players who are feeling "too successful", how about a "totally realistic scenario" like you mentioned when describing the "testors first reactions" to the game as "research" had generated it? The one with the accurate OB and realistic economic assets for both sides. The one everyone complained about because the South "couldn't win". A scenario for the "dyed-in-the-cotten" Rebel Players to really challange themselves with---one with no Southern "freebies" and the North not having to fight with "one hand tied behind it's back". In other words, the "real" ACW.
Mike
are you saying you can not beat the CSA or are you reading and seeing what is in the game and think that you can not beat them ?
this screen shot is from a Union Game I had, on Col with the CSA on +2 power
I think I was doing pretty well with the Lousy Union
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:58 am
by steveuk
Thats easy Sarge....look at mine for the CSA [:'(]
Early September 61 and no chance of building a thing!
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RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:10 am
by marecone
Not sure if this should go here or somewhere else but... could you makea scenario with only one tactical battle? Maybe with options whereyou would have some resources and then buy units, attributes and weapons? Or if it is too much then just tactical battle.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:37 am
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: steveuk
Thats easy Sarge....look at mine for the CSA [:'(]
Early September 61 and no chance of building a thing!
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and your point Steve ?
they are saying the CSA is too strong, by your settings, they are not, I show my pic to show that the CSA can be beaten in battle ?
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:17 am
by steveuk
Yep...thats why I showed mine. Changing the difficulty settings can make the South extremely weak as some people want and the Union very strong. I still reckon I can win this game though....will depend on my blockade runners!
I would still like an historical start available though as the settings which I have it on now are pretty mean on the CSA and far too kind on the Union.
RE: New Civil War Scenarios for Future Patches
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:33 am
by Hard Sarge
Roger, ws just trying to be sure of what you were showing