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Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:09 am
by ETF
OK I remember several years ago playing a Combat Mission (Eastern Front) using an operational map from TOAW II.
Is was a blast resolving tactical battles via the Combat Mission engine and then updating the map (TOAWII) with the editor. I do recall though the editor was clunky and of course was not designed for one trying to combine these fine two products.

That being said will TOAWIII be more conducive to this you think? How has the editor been improved? Can one move the units on the map and the save the game and make additions or deletions to the said units and then continue to play the next turn?

Thanks Guys...........



RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:10 am
by Telumar
Back in ACOW you could rename the save file extension .sal or .pbl to .sce and load the file into the editor and edit it like any other normal scenario. Don't know if this is still possible in TOAW III.
The only problem is that this will mess up events as the turn counter is each time set back to turn 1, but for your purpose it might be fine.

For the editor improvements: You can export/import and edit the OOB and/or the map or part of a map as an .xml file.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:53 am
by ralphtricky
Right now TOAW III doesn't allow editing of saved games because of possible issues with cheating in PBEM. If there's enough interest, we can look into putting in an 'editable' flag.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:24 am
by Menschenfresser
If it's just repositioning units after you resolve combat with CM, then you won't need to worry about events, etc. Century of Warfare is probably a better bet since you can still open save files in the editor. The editor is still the same on the surface.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:53 pm
by ETF
OK sounds great will go back to Century of Warfare for this.
 
Can anyone refer me to a product/software with half decent maps that  can move or update counters on it? Re. Using a third party software to handle the tactical battles with a campaign?
Thanks Guys!

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:16 pm
by Zort
I would like the ability to edit a game while in progress, makes it so much easier when testing to correct problems and not have to start all over.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:47 pm
by rhinobones
ORIGINAL: ralphtrick
Right now TOAW III doesn't allow editing of saved games because of possible issues with cheating in PBEM. If there's enough interest, we can look into putting in an 'editable' flag.

Sounds like for the stated purpose they can just use the raw scenario file and just make the edits as necessary. Doesn't sound like they need, or want, a pbl file. They can use the sce file as a living document and update as required.

Regards, RhinoBones

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:28 pm
by larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: rhinobones
ORIGINAL: ralphtrick
Right now TOAW III doesn't allow editing of saved games because of possible issues with cheating in PBEM. If there's enough interest, we can look into putting in an 'editable' flag.

Sounds like for the stated purpose they can just use the raw scenario file and just make the edits as necessary. Doesn't sound like they need, or want, a pbl file. They can use the sce file as a living document and update as required.

Regards, RhinoBones

Yeah, but with a monster game like FitE that would mean literally thousands of edits. Zort ( Buzz ) is talking of making just 50 or so edits.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:00 am
by hueglin
Why not use Google Earth or Earth Explorer? You can add place marks and move them around. You can also save some text with the place mark. With some fiddling, you may even be able to make the place mark a NATO military symbol.

On second thought, I guess there would be no way to update and send the info to an opponent.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:02 pm
by Telumar
Yup and you can also use the TOAW counters (Nato military symbols) that are available in the various mods.

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:17 pm
by larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: hueglin

Why not use Google Earth or Earth Explorer? You can add place marks and move them around. You can also save some text with the place mark. With some fiddling, you may even be able to make the place mark a NATO military symbol.

On second thought, I guess there would be no way to update and send the info to an opponent.

Why not do a screen grab and save it in a file and email the file to your opponent?

RE: Using TOAWIII for operational map only?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:45 pm
by CSO_Talorgan
ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

Right now TOAW III doesn't allow editing of saved games because of possible issues with cheating in PBEM. If there's enough interest, we can look into putting in an 'editable' flag.

Please do!