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WITP nationalist movement theory

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:57 am
by el cid again
I have noticed a pattern. I think we can conclude that

classical communist resistence organizations are anti-Japanese -

and possibly should be controlled by the Soviet player in a multi-player game.

Anti-colonial movements are different - and should be regarded as more or less Japanese.

This permits us at last to decide what to do about significant NEI resistence units?
Those on Java (being anti-Dutch) are pro Japanese. Those in other places (notably Celebes)
are communist - MORE against the nationalists on Java - and should be controlled by the Russian team.

RE: WITP nationalist movement theory

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:02 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: el cid again

I have noticed a pattern. I think we can conclude that

classical communist resistence organizations are anti-Japanese -

and possibly should be controlled by the Soviet player in a multi-player game.

Anti-colonial movements are different - and should be regarded as more or less Japanese.

This permits us at last to decide what to do about significant NEI resistence units?
Those on Java (being anti-Dutch) are pro Japanese. Those in other places (notably Celebes)
are communist - MORE against the nationalists on Java - and should be controlled by the Russian team.

Perhaps some of those Indian people would be used to block Allied supply lines?

RE: WITP nationalist movement theory

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:15 am
by el cid again
At the time, these "units" were called "militias" and they were more para-military than military. Only tiny numbers were trained in things like artillery and aircraft maintenance (although enough that these branches remained viable and never left the field - ever - until independence was won). Curiously, the "central control" militias were those from the area that would tend to control a new country (that is, Java) - but those from a different island (notably developed SW Celebes - or Suluwese in the native language) - were so opposed to central control they would tend to fight the control militias.
Since the control militias feed off - and are advised by - IJA - I think making their opposition be Allied makes as close to some sense as we can achieve in a bi-polar game system. These things matter more in 1945 - for Japan (probably the Nakano School) decided to greatly up arm these formations (and create clones in several other countries) as a way to "punish" the enemy colonial powers - and insure they could not remain in control of their colonies even if they returned. This concept was on the wholy remarkably successful in most countries (possibly excepting Malaya - where there was resentment that provinces had been transferred to Thailand - never mind they were historically Thai provinces).

RE: WITP nationalist movement theory

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:42 am
by el cid again
Data sets 6.670 will add DEI units for both sides. 4 of these are guerilla units, communist, on major outlieing islands,
and look like the Viet Minh. 3 are modeled on the Indian National Army - two appear in 1945 - and these are on Java and Sumatra - "where substantial areas had been turned over to nationalist control" before the war ended. The guerillas and the Viet Minh are Soviet controlled in Russian Active Scenarios. In Russian Passive Scenarios they are British SE Asia for Viet Minh and ANZAC for Indonesian.