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Can you send whichever ones your authorized to send to rudel.dietrich at gmail.com
Also if you have them, the Talonsoft official patches as well since I have the 1.00 CD

sorry bud, been trying, hopefully 3rd time is the charm

Hello,

I got my BOB patch from www.patches-scrolls.de as I too have the 1.00 CD from yesteryear

hope this is what you are looking for.

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

sorry bud, been trying, hopefully 3rd time is the charm

I got that one
Thank you!

And even though I do not post much in this forum, this is one of my most anticpated wargames [:)]

And can I ask a question?
Is this going to be both games packaged and one game/download? Or are you still working on two seperate games?
And will this allow us to play from 1940 into 1943 and the start of BTR?

One of the biggest things I always wanted to see was BTR start in early 42.
It always annoyed me (when playing both sides) to come into the game and fine some targets already damaged and sections of Hamburg already leveled

Great, I was hopeing it would make it , took 3 tries, but....
 
okay let see
 
this will be ONE game, both games are set to work off of the same engine now, so things you could before do in BTR  but not is BoB is gone (unless spec rules do not allow)
 
when the start menu comes up, you have a choice of going to the BoB side or the BTR side, and the choices made then, will bring the right map and OOB into play
 
NO, you will have BoB and BoB41, or BTR43, BTR44 (or one of the sub campaigns)
 
to have the game go from BoB to BTR would be toooooo much reprogramming, even more so, as you basic change game sides in the game
 
I do have the control to change the start date, and I could set up a Campaign to either start earlier or later, but, that would/will be for down the road, right now all of the reseach and info is based on the Aug 17th start for BTR
 
the Major area of concern would be the OOB, units that should be in, that are held out, units that should be out, that are in, and so on, dates for when things show up (dates are based on turn, not really on date, so, a unit that should show up say on Jan 1st, is really set up to show on on say turn 154, which so saying, it is not too major a job to correct the turn, other then time to do it, so say the game starts two months earlier, I would just have to go in and add 60 to every unit that is on delay)
 
so saying, it is doable, but it is time work, and right now, that is something we don't really have
 
if you have questions, please ask, it is much easier for me to answer or reanswer something, then to the remember everything I have said or thought I have said and find new stuff to say
 
so to be sure, it is two games in one, but they do not connect or run though, if you play BoB/BoB41, once that is over, the game is over

I thought that was the case

No matter what is included I will purchase the game. If only for widescreen support, both games on one install and future updates.


Saying that, having a earlier start time for the BTR campaign would be my #1 request for down the road.
As I said before, I dont really like going into the game finding all those pre damaged targets.
The Hamburg area is pretty much flattened by Aug 43 and the Essen area is pretty well hit and Berlin has some damage.
As the Allied side it would be nice to have more control over the flow of the war from early 42 onwards.
And as the Germans I dont like like being penalized by history and not having the option to protect those targets.

Either May 1942 or August 17th 1942 would be good start dates

But like you said, that is way down the road. As for now im just happy to get updates for this game since its one of my favourite wargames of all time.
I always felt the engine would be great for a submarine campaign game as well.


One last question and I will leave you alone
What new screen resoloutions will this game support?
I have a 24 inch widescreen LCD and was hoping against hope that 1920x1600 was an option

Harley will need to reply to that one, I think the res is 1024x???
 
not sure how the rest of that would work out
 
Subs ? hmmm, we think alike
 
 

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge



Subs ? hmmm, we think alike

Yes
Using the same engine mixed with the WiTP engine and the same graphics.
You could play either side, as the Germans you have to manage your fleet of Uboats and surface ships to interdict british merchants and pick away at their surface fleet, you would also be able to manage building uboats.
Do you mass build lots of type IIs early in the war for close in coastal work mixed with Type VIIs, or do you drive up the tech tree and produce fewer type IX long range boats and eventualy type XXs
You would also have to balance how many boats were out at sea with the ever increasing need for training boats (up to 15% of all boats by 1943 were training boats)
Air units would make it in as well

As the Allies you have to of course hunt down and sink and damage as many Uboats as possible while protecting your own convoys. Do you conserve resources and put ships in huge convoys that are easier to find for wolf packs that can have attack chances at 2-3 ships...or do you use smaller convoys and individual ships hoping to overwhelm the UBoats and limit the loss to just single ships and slip many of them past.
Do you use precious surface resources to form hunter killer groups or split them up to escort the convoys?
And can you hold on until 1943 when the tide turns?

Surface ships could also be included, Germans have 2-3 ships groups that slip out of the north sea and go convoy hunting while the allies must hunt them down and avoid being picked off by Uboats

The ground war could be abstracted and planes could be limited to planes who did mostly naval search, recon and attack work.
That would keep the scale low and turns could be done quickly.

The UBoat war has always facsinated me and its a shame no one has ever attempted a operational game focusing on Uboats and surface raiders.
You would not even need to dwelve much into fantasy since until 1943 it was a close run thing in which a few decisions and pieces of luck one way or another could have decided the war at sea.

And of course you could include some fun fantasy scenarios
i.e. the Germans begin the war in 1939 better prepared with a stronger Uboat arm. Or they have increaed production during the war and the type XX gets to the front lines quicker along with the better Type IIVs and Type IXs and eventualy type XXs
Or a scenario where German surface forces were bulked up and could put in a much larger role in convoy hunting and could fight the British on near equal terms.

I have dreamed of such a game for a very very long time.
Such a pity no one has attempted it AFAIK

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

One last question and I will leave you alone
What new screen resoloutions will this game support?
I have a 24 inch widescreen LCD and was hoping against hope that 1920x1600 was an option

I have fixed the res at 1024*768. I wanted to make it adaptable, but I couldn't do this with the age of the engine. As a compromise I got USS_MAINE to add in a flag to allow our testers to run it in windowed mode, which looks good on my 1280*1024 LCD panel. This will probably remain in the release version, unless some issue comes up with it later.

That sounds good

I ran BTR for the first time today on my new monitor and it looks pretty ugly

Can you resize the window?
Windowed mode sounds very nice, I can browse the internet and other such things while turns play out

Nice work on all of this!
Really looking forward to seeing the project come to a close and being able to purchase and download

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I thought that was the case

No matter what is included I will purchase the game. If only for widescreen support, both games on one install and future updates.


Saying that, having a earlier start time for the BTR campaign would be my #1 request for down the road.
As I said before, I dont really like going into the game finding all those pre damaged targets.
The Hamburg area is pretty much flattened by Aug 43 and the Essen area is pretty well hit and Berlin has some damage.
As the Allied side it would be nice to have more control over the flow of the war from early 42 onwards.
And as the Germans I dont like like being penalized by history and not having the option to protect those targets.

Once the game is released, one of the things I could do, is to have a "Clean" battlefield mod made up, and have a ST and TE score set to 0, and remove all of the damage that is inplace at game start (Turn off Auto Victory) if there is a reasonable request wishing to have one made, it would be some work, but is doable


Either May 1942 or August 17th 1942 would be good start dates

But like you said, that is way down the road. As for now im just happy to get updates for this game since its one of my favourite wargames of all time.
I always felt the engine would be great for a submarine campaign game as well.


One last question and I will leave you alone
What new screen resoloutions will this game support?
I have a 24 inch widescreen LCD and was hoping against hope that 1920x1600 was an option

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I thought that was the case

No matter what is included I will purchase the game. If only for widescreen support, both games on one install and future updates.


Saying that, having a earlier start time for the BTR campaign would be my #1 request for down the road.
As I said before, I dont really like going into the game finding all those pre damaged targets.
The Hamburg area is pretty much flattened by Aug 43 and the Essen area is pretty well hit and Berlin has some damage.
As the Allied side it would be nice to have more control over the flow of the war from early 42 onwards.
And as the Germans I dont like like being penalized by history and not having the option to protect those targets.

Once the game is released, one of the things I could do, is to have a "Clean" battlefield mod made up, and have a ST and TE score set to 0, and remove all of the damage that is inplace at game start (Turn off Auto Victory) if there is a reasonable request wishing to have one made, it would be some work, but is doable


Either May 1942 or August 17th 1942 would be good start dates

But like you said, that is way down the road. As for now im just happy to get updates for this game since its one of my favourite wargames of all time.
I always felt the engine would be great for a submarine campaign game as well.


One last question and I will leave you alone
What new screen resoloutions will this game support?
I have a 24 inch widescreen LCD and was hoping against hope that 1920x1600 was an option

That sounds awesome [:)] I hope to see it done one day
Only problem is that the start date would have to be sooner or else the Allied player given more planes than historical, otherwise the Allied player would have no chance at victory

Well, for something like that, that is why I would turn off autovictory, it would take much longer to turn the tide, but once you did, the score would climb pretty fast
 
 

I've just uncovered my copy of BTR, is there any chance of some kind soul sending me the patch and oob files?  Please.

Ive just reinstalled BTR too. Amazingly enough I still have the manual aswell.

Now Im looking for the patches. Is this where I get them?

stevehortlund@hotmail.com

okay, just in case, most times posts like this come up, I normally send the stuff out, or send a PM to get info I need to get the stuff out
 
been thinking about it, and it may look like no one is replying or helping
 
but with in reason, if I see a request, I do try and get the patches out to the people who need them
 

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

okay, just in case, most times posts like this come up, I normally send the stuff out, or send a PM to get info I need to get the stuff out

been thinking about it, and it may look like no one is replying or helping

but with in reason, if I see a request, I do try and get the patches out to the people who need them

Unless there is a serious problem with doing it, I have spare webspace where I would be willing to host these files for anyone else who wants to download them.

Thank you Dixie
 
I have posted a post on the top of the page for any one who needs to get either the BTR 1.06x5 patch or the BoB 102 patch
 
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