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NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:17 am
by Knavey
Give me a break...I lose a sub to a PT boat! [:@]

This game is so broken it is unplayable! Why can't they make it like real life! How hard can that be?



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/43

ASW attack at 56,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-122

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:30 am
by marky
over aggressive boat commander attacks on surface [:D]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:35 am
by FastPhil
Not sure why you made this comment. In real life PT boats were on occasion outfitted with 300/600lb depth charges and did ASW patrols. Not sure what is broken.[:)]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:39 am
by denisonh
It is possible, however unlikely

Any combat model needs to have a very wide range of outcomes, as chaos reigns supreme in combat and creates all sorts of odd outcomes outside the norm.

Comabt modeling is a real difficult activity because of that fact.

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:41 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Knavey

Give me a break...I lose a sub to a PT boat! [:@]

This game is so broken it is unplayable! Why can't they make it like real life! How hard can that be?



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/43

ASW attack at 56,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-122


I disagree with your belief the game is "broken" for this.. Some PT's carried depth charges and even hedgehogs, so apparently they felt the idea of PT vs sub was possible.
Then too, subs may have been sunk by torpedoes as well, (ala "Run Silent, Run Deep")?

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:43 am
by marky
ORIGINAL: m10bob

ORIGINAL: Knavey

Give me a break...I lose a sub to a PT boat! [:@]

This game is so broken it is unplayable! Why can't they make it like real life! How hard can that be?



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/43

ASW attack at 56,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-122


I disagree with your belief the game is "broken" for this.. Some PT's carried depth charges and even hedgehogs, so apparently they felt the idea of PT vs sub was possible.
Then too, subs may have been sunk by torpedoes as well, (ala "Run Silent, Run Deep")?

agreed

simple scenario

sub surfaces after running submerged, bad visibility or at night, and just happens to run into a pt boat that wasnt spotttewd with the periscope search

pt boat comes in and fires fish

boom


RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:44 am
by rogueusmc
PTs in-game don't ever get DCs either...

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:44 am
by Halsey
[:D]

Subs have a greater chance to attack on the surface if out of torps.

Another thing is that the PT's were in a SCTF instead of a PTTF?[;)]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:45 am
by Halsey
ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

PTs in-game don't ever get DCs either...

They do in some of the mods, ie; CHS.[;)]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:50 am
by rogueusmc
And sonar???

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:08 am
by FastPhil
ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

And sonar???

Sonar isn't a necessity. Boat on the surface, or has periscope up, just dived.

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:12 am
by BLurking
Relax guys - I think somebody's pulling your chains...

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:08 am
by AU Tiger_MatrixForum
ORIGINAL: BLurking

Relax guys - I think somebody's pulling your chains...

[:D]
Farking Nucs.
[8|]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:18 am
by bradfordkay
Guys, you might note that the combat result says "torpedo hits 3", not depth charges.

I haven't found anything on this yet, but I'm guessing that Knavey is back to his old tricks. Several times he has posted one of these, when in reality the result was not from the game but rather from WW2.

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:37 am
by AU Tiger_MatrixForum
This is the second I have seen, but I am a relative newbie. Never trust a Nuc. I should know, I was one also. [8D]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:03 am
by pauk
ORIGINAL: Knavey

Give me a break...I lose a sub to a PT boat! [:@]

This game is so broken it is unplayable! Why can't they make it like real life! How hard can that be?



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/43

ASW attack at 56,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, is sunk

Allied Ships


PT PT-122


Do you trust me now guys when i claim "PTs are overpowered"! [:)][:D]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:52 am
by Yamato hugger
ORIGINAL: Knavey

Give me a break...I lose a sub to a PT boat! [:@]

This game is so broken it is unplayable! Why can't they make it like real life! How hard can that be?



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/43

ASW attack at 56,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-122

Well, I didnt keep score, but I know for a fact that PT-73 sank more than 1 Jap sub, shot down dozens of Zeros and a few dozen 109's also.

[:D]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:20 am
by Yava
This must have hurt[:D]

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:26 am
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: BLurking

Relax guys - I think somebody's pulling your chains...

Apparently, nobody noticed. Knavey's done this before... More than once, in fact...

RE: NO WAY could this really happen!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:50 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: BLurking

Relax guys - I think somebody's pulling your chains...

Apparently, nobody noticed. Knavey's done this before... More than once, in fact...

Is his motive comedy or otherwise??