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Hi everyone!

I have invested alot of time lately to create a good armour scenario for COTA. The battle around El-Mechili in 1940 became the setting, because it was a fairly even engagement and offers alot of "what-if" potential.
I checked out what type of tanks that where in the estabs against the OOB for the battle and found everything that I needed. The map is almost done, so I started with research of a more detailed force composition, which with the Italian brigade involved turned out to be rather complicated.
Anyway, I encountered a very big problem when it was time to build the OOB in the scenario maker. The italian unit estab only offers one single (useless) tank type, the L33/35. Some of these where involved in the battle, but it was the M13/40 tank that made up the bulk of the italian forces. This tank is in the equipment database, but not in any Italian units. Its however included in the Brittish side.[&:]

Is it just me or have the Italian forces in COTA just one single tank type available to them? There are seven additional / capable tank types in the unit database, but they arent selectable by anyone except the allies. Is there anyway around this or should I start counting on how many M13/40 it goes on a PzIII?

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but it was the M13/40 tank that made up the bulk of the italian forces. This tank is in the equipment database, but not in any Italian units. Its however included in the Brittish side.[&:]

The British captured over a hundred of them intact at Beda Fomm - as they were sorely lacking in armoured units they used them themselves and some Aussie units too IIRC.

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Is there anyway around this

Patch 3 isn't finalized yet so it could be added to the Italian estab - I'll post your request in the beta forum right now.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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The British captured over a hundred of them intact at Beda Fomm - as they were sorely lacking in armoured units they used them themselves and some Aussie units too IIRC.

I certainly dont doubt the research that has been put into making the estabs. But I do wonder why this "issue" hasnt surfaced before. The game has an excellent scenario/map editor, and there must have been someone that have tried to look at making something with the italians?

Thank you all for the good support!

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I certainly dont doubt the research that has been put into making the estabs. But I do wonder why this "issue" hasnt surfaced before. The game has an excellent scenario/map editor, and there must have been someone that have tried to look at making something with the italians?

They're not exactly the most popular army to develop scenarios around - which is a shame in a sense - but not putting an M13 in their estab is an oversight - sometimes it's hard to spot the "obvious" thing missing until someone points at it and everyone says "uh, eh, yes, you're right" [;)]

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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... but it was the M13/40 tank that made up the bulk of the italian forces. This tank is in the equipment database, but not in any Italian units.

Check out this post [;)]

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Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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... but it was the M13/40 tank that made up the bulk of the italian forces. This tank is in the equipment database, but not in any Italian units.

Check out this post [;)]

m.asp?m=1475428&mpage=2&key=

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

Great![:)]



The "sandbox" for them to play in looks a little dull, but its just desert, some small roads, a few ruins and a couple of oasis. The dry out "lakes" is made out of beach terrain at the moment, mainly because they offer the same movement hinderence as a swamps, without adding alot of green colour to the map.
The whole map didnt fit on a single screenshot, so I guess it can be quite cpu demanding if it wherent for the lack of diverse terrain and alot of units.

Delete me [:(]

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Delete me [:(]

Oooops - you meant *the post* ? [:D]

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx