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Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:11 pm
by m10bob
If any Japanese plane slots were free, I would like to see this one as it was still carrier deployed into 1942 and very active off the coast of India aboard at least the Ryujo, and other of the smaller carriers.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:37 pm
by DuckofTindalos
You're talking about the Jean, right?
http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/b4y.htm
That's already in the stock game, though for some reason not deployed. I'm using it in my personal mod.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:46 pm
by Dili
I think RHSCVO cames with them in some CVL's at war start.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:57 pm
by DuckofTindalos
According to Niehorster, only the Hosho carried any Jeans on 12/7. The Zuiho carried B5M "Mabels". The Ryujo carried Kates.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:03 pm
by Nikademus
your mod sucks. [:)]
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:04 pm
by DuckofTindalos
How would YOU know?[:'(]
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:14 pm
by Nikademus
I know everything. [:)]
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:16 pm
by DuckofTindalos
No(tm).
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:24 pm
by Nikademus
YES!(tm)
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:31 pm
by DuckofTindalos
You obviously don't know how to train a pitbull puppy...[:'(]
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:31 pm
by Dili
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:35 pm
by Nikademus
sure i do....but you can't train out stuuuupid. Just ask your parents. [:)]
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:36 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Nikademus
sure i do....but you can't train out stuuuupid. Just ask your parents. [:)]
Bah, humbug... The Ouija Board's is in the shop anyway...
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:22 pm
by el cid again
ORIGINAL: Dili
I think RHSCVO cames with themĀ in some CVL's at war start.
This aircraft was relegated to land based use by the time the US got in the war. It is present as a dual aircraft in RHS - the types are combined so you don't lose any plane counts in your units.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:33 pm
by Dili
Thanks. I was going from memory.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:35 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: el cid again
ORIGINAL: Dili
I think RHSCVO cames with them in some CVL's at war start.
This aircraft was relegated to land based use by the time the US got in the war.
No.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:36 am
by el cid again
See Japanese Naval Aces and Fighter Units and World War II (which mentions the units because they had fighter elements) and Francillon - who treats them as a secondary type. Not that either is error free - but they are not bad places to start. No - unqualified - with no pointer to some reason to think otherwise - isn't really helpful.
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:03 am
by m10bob
The reason I even considered this old biplane,(aside from its' relation to another old bipe, the Swordfish), was that it is mentioned as being the agressive component on the Ryujo during the Indian ocean forays between Madras and Calcutta, sinking approx 55 ships, whilst the "big boys" were out searching for Somerville's main surface/carrier forces.
The "Claude" was the ships' fighter element.
This is in TITANS OF THE SEAS, James and William Belote,1975...(An excellent narrative of carrier development and operations concerning WWII )
BTW, I have seen other sources which indicated the escort carriers already had Kate aircraft at this time as well, so its' a matter of who did the better research?
For these smaller and older flat-tops, with limited range, I'm gonna guess they did not have the priority for newer planes that the larger, newer ships had..
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:22 am
by DuckofTindalos
That, plus size and allocation of torpedoes would also be an issue. As you're aware, the smaller carriers didn't have torpedoes allocated for their Kates...
RE: Japanese type 96 torpedo bomber
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:39 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus
That, plus size and allocation of torpedoes would also be an issue. As you're aware, the smaller carriers didn't have torpedoes allocated for their Kates...
I did not know that, but it also helps explain why the same book datails half of the Kates being used for high altitude bombing, in early campaigns, (including Pearl Harbor!).