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Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:12 pm
by Sparrow
For tenders (AR, AD, AS etc) to function in port, what condition must be set?
Docked
Undocked
Or disbanded
[&:]
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:14 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Sparrow
For tenders (AR, AD, AS etc) to function in port, what condition must be set?
Docked
Undocked
Or disbanded
[&:]
They work best when disbanded... it is a matter of debate if they work at all when in a TF (either docked or undocked).
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:07 pm
by hbrsvl
Hi-Ref.rtrapasso's reply, I've had AS work fine at a port when TFs cannot disband, due to size of port.
Example, in scen. 15, playing as Allies, latest v, in early '42 I've put an AS at Attu, in a TF, docked. My subs returning from patrol DO have their torps replentished.
Hope this works for you. Hugh Browne
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:11 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: hbrsvl
Hi-Ref.rtrapasso's reply, I've had AS work fine at a port when TFs cannot disband, due to size of port.
Example, in scen. 15, playing as Allies, latest v, in early '42 I've put an AS at Attu, in a TF, docked. My subs returning from patrol DO have their torps replentished.
Hope this works for you. Hugh Browne
Ooops - sorry - i was referring to their REPAIR functions - the other functions (replenishment for AS, AD, support in the case of AVs) work fine if docked (as long as enough supplies are present.)
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:31 pm
by Anthropoid
I suppose the same is true for replenishment from MLE and AE.
I understand that in WiTP, AE can replenish at sea, but this is NOT true for War Plan Orange? Anyone know if this is true for certain?
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:41 pm
by Mistmatz
AE resupply at sea beginning of '45 iirc and then I believe only for the allies. Before that they only work at base hexes.
Ack on the MLE.
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:54 pm
by rockmedic109
I think AE can only resupply ammo for 5"ers or less while at sea; and only in 1945 or later.
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:57 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: rockmedic109
I think AE can only resupply ammo for 5"ers or less while at sea; and only in 1945 or later.
iirc, it is (all) AA ammo up to 5"ers...
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:02 pm
by Nikademus
AR works the same whether docked or disbanded to my knowledge.
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:04 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Nikademus
AR works the same whether docked or disbanded to my knowledge.
interesting... i've never gotten good results if they were just docked...
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:06 pm
by Nikademus
saved a foundering CV that way once. could have been a lucky die roll i suppose. [:D]
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:46 pm
by Anthropoid
If a ship has some damage, but needs to go back to a solid port, what is the best kind of ship to escourt it? A DD, or would an AR be even better? I realize being as scarce as they are having an AR to escourt damaged ships might not be the best use of it, but I wonder if it would help a ship that was in risk of not getting home?
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:17 pm
by Dino
ARs perform their function only in port.
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:17 pm
by Nikademus
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
If a ship has some damage, but needs to go back to a solid port, what is the best kind of ship to escourt it? A DD, or would an AR be even better? I realize being as scarce as they are having an AR to escourt damaged ships might not be the best use of it, but I wonder if it would help a ship that was in risk of not getting home?
as mentioned, AR won't repair while at sea. The best ship to escort with is LOTS of ships [;)]. Make sure you change the TF type to "escort" otherwise the auto-divide routine for crippled ships will divorce the cripple from the majority of it's escort.
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:05 pm
by Anthropoid
Thanks guys!
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:19 am
by grumpyman
sorry to butt in on Sparrow's question but do AR not in a shipyard repair any sys damage or does it just help stop flooding?
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:36 am
by RUPD3658
ARs help with both
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:03 pm
by Rob Brennan UK
ORIGINAL: Nikademus
saved a foundering CV that way once. could have been a lucky die roll i suppose. [:D]
I just lost the BB Pensylvania to flooding and she had 4 AR's docked at a size 2 port. So i don't believe AR's help at all unless disbanded into the port with the damaged ship.
Ironically the port expanded to a 3 the same darn turn [;)]
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:29 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
ORIGINAL: Nikademus
saved a foundering CV that way once. could have been a lucky die roll i suppose. [:D]
I just lost the BB Pensylvania to flooding and she had 4 AR's docked at a size 2 port. So i don't believe AR's help at all unless disbanded into the port with the damaged ship.
Ironically the port expanded to a 3 the same darn turn [;)]
I believe a programmer confirmed some time ago that ARs (and ADs/ASs) must be disbanded in port to work.
RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:38 am
by grumpyman
ORIGINAL: dtravel
[I believe a programmer confirmed some time ago that ARs (and ADs/ASs) must be disbanded in port to work.
Dooh!!!