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Artillery question
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:36 pm
by VZ
Will a artillery unit behind my line NOT support the defence if the arty guys are from another formation as the defender in the attacked hex?
For example in "Operation Blue" as germans I moved those plenty arty units from 11.army somewhere else after sewastopol was taken but it seems they dont support the defenders.
btw: There is really a option aka gamefeature needed to assign units to other formations.
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:43 pm
by Levelworm
I remember they need to pass somekind of communication check, and this feature will be included in the next patch? not sure though.
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:29 am
by JAMiAM
ORIGINAL: Levelworm
I remember they need to pass somekind of communication check, and this feature will be included in the next patch? not sure though.
If you're referring to "this feature" as being able to swap units from formation to formation, then that is most assuredly incorrect. This ability will most certainly have to wait until a TOAW IV.
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:32 am
by Veers
ORIGINAL: JAMiAM
ORIGINAL: Levelworm
I remember they need to pass somekind of communication check, and this feature will be included in the next patch? not sure though.
If you're referring to "this feature" as being able to swap units from formation to formation, then that is most assuredly incorrect.
This ability will most certainly have to wait until a TOAW IV.
*starts into his bottle of Jack* (Damnit all the drinking smilies are 'happy', need something for depressed drinking [:D])
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:32 am
by SMK-at-work
Oooeer....hints about TOAW IV....[:D][:D]........including the ability to shift units between formations??!! [&o][&o]
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:58 am
by Levelworm
Oh, at least we have hope [:D]
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:14 am
by VZ
..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:20 am
by JAMiAM
ORIGINAL: VZ
..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?
Depends on the cooperation level and communications checks.
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:49 am
by a white rabbit
ORIGINAL: VZ
..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?
..check the formation co-operation setting, and check the unit icon colours
before you move the artillery..
..in actual combat go
plan attack, if all the flags are gold then it's cool, if not, not...
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:49 pm
by Rugens
Also, be sure your artillery orders are not set to "Mobile".
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:08 pm
by a white rabbit
..yahh right, we all have our off days..
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:36 pm
by larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: Carl Rugenstein
Also, be sure your artillery orders are not set to "Mobile".
It's my understanding that artillery that is in "mobile" status doesn't fire but that artillery that is intended to fire must be in 'T,D,E, or F' mode. Oh....you don't want it to fire, okay nevermind.
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:54 pm
by a white rabbit
ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: Carl Rugenstein
Also, be sure your artillery orders are not set to "Mobile".
It's my understanding that artillery that is in "mobile" status doesn't fire but that artillery that is intended to fire must be in 'T,D,E, or F' mode. Oh....you don't want it to fire, okay nevermind.
..i only use
tactical settings, then i'm sure it supports..
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:02 pm
by VZ
ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
ORIGINAL: VZ
..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?
..check the formation co-operation setting, and check the unit icon colours
before you move the artillery..
co-op level (the flag colour on the attack planning screen I assume) is grey.
the icon colour from the arty units in question is another one than the units which are suposed to be supported (in the operation blue campaign each german army has another color). The arty units are dug in.
Is there any chance that they will support the defence anyway (if so I will let them stay here, maybe just bad luck that they dont gave any support yet).
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:19 pm
by a white rabbit
..aaargghh..
..gold is good, grey is errr dodgy, black is crap...
..take a look at "formation" on one of the pull-downs, internal support is really baaad, they only like units from the same formation and of the same colour..
..it gets better from there..
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:27 pm
by Silvanski
or try this alternative one
rename to
combatviewstuff.bmp after downloading it

RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:30 pm
by Veers
ORIGINAL: Silvanski
or try this alternative one
rename to
combatviewstuff.bmp after downloading it
Very cool.
EDIT: God, that's an ugly green, though! [:D]
EDIT2: This will certainly make Frances' life easier, though.
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:33 pm
by VZ
ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
..take a look at "formation" on one of the pull-downs, internal support is really baaad, they only like units from the same formation and of the same colour..
it is "Streitmacht-Unterstützung" (german version). I think it means Force support.
The support is limited then (but possible) , right?
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:37 pm
by a white rabbit
ORIGINAL: VZ
ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
..take a look at "formation" on one of the pull-downs, internal support is really baaad, they only like units from the same formation and of the same colour..
it is "Streitmacht-Unterstützung" (german version). I think it means Force support.
They should support then, right?
..no friggin' idea, you're in Germany, ask a german...
..french, tagalog,bisayan, english, tagakolo..s'all i do..
RE: Artillery question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:39 pm
by VZ
hehe. Matrix´s translation are vague at times
Lets say they mean force support, am I correct then? (edited my post above)