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Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:49 am
by Rybeck
This is CHS 2.08, scen 155 with Andrew's extended map.

I have a transport TF with about 6 tankers. Target and DH are Port Moresby and it's set to unload cargo. It has about 55000 fuel but even after 3 turns, nothing has unloaded. The port is NOT damaged at all (0%) and I even tried splitting the TF into three smaller TFs.

There is minimal other TF activity (loading/unloading) at Moresby. Port size there is currently 1.

Weird?

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:26 am
by wild_Willie2
Do you have the tankers set to "unload" ?
 

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:31 pm
by Rybeck
Yes the TF is set to unload. Definitely :)

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:08 pm
by kaleun
With a port size of 1, I have observed very slow unloads. Actually that is historically correct.
Why would you want to unload the fuel at such a small port? You lose fuel from attrition (wastage) at any port < 3 so, unless enemy air is really threatening, I would just keep it in the TK and refuel from it. You might have to turn the TF into a replenishment TF though.
[&:]Are TKs refuelling other ships from their cargo in V1.08?
The world wonders.

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:38 pm
by Rybeck
Well, one of my important TFs is low on fuel, and I don't have a replenishment TF at hand ... so I don't have a choice. It's the tankers unloading there or nothing :)&nbsp;

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:48 pm
by MineSweeper
You can refuel your TF from tankers at sea....

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:03 pm
by Mike Solli
You can refuel TFs from AOs in a replenishment TF, but not TKs.&nbsp; You can not put TKs in a replenishment TF. There is a replenishment TF with 7 TKs in it at the beginning of the game that you can use (assuming you&nbsp;didn't disband it).

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:31 pm
by MineSweeper
You can refuel from tankers in a non-replenishment TF.....@ a Transport TF that has Tankers loaded with fuel....[:)]


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RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:15 pm
by Mike Solli
If you're talking about refueling ships within a TF that has TKs loaded with fuel, yes, you're right Minesweeper.&nbsp; I was talking about a non-replenishment TF with TKs loaded with fuel trying to refuel another TF.

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:27 pm
by Rybeck
Yes I was referring to the second instance, Mike. I have TF 1 with capital ships low on fuel and TF 2 is a non-replenishment TF with tankers loaded up with fuel. So I still have to get TF 2 to unload fuel at a port so TF 1 can head to said port and refuel right?

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:31 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Rybeck

Yes I was referring to the second instance, Mike. I have TF 1 with capital ships low on fuel and TF 2 is a non-replenishment TF with tankers loaded up with fuel. So I still have to get TF 2 to unload fuel at a port so TF 1 can head to said port and refuel right?

Yes, you're right. Sorry but I have no idea why your TF won't unload the fuel though.

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:35 pm
by Rybeck
Yeah it's weird. I know size 1 ports are pretty slow at unloading, but after 2-3 turns and still ZERO fuel has been unloaded ... really weird.

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:36 pm
by MineSweeper
Rybeck you do not need to wait to unload the fuel into the port.....Just have TF 1 refuel at sea if it is in the same hex as task force 2 (might not fill 100%).....depending on how many ships are in each TF as regarding to op points.....

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:41 pm
by Rybeck
Yeah I tried that and it helped some but I'm still puzzled why TF 2 doesn't seem to want to unload any fuel into an undamaged size 1 port. Ah well...

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:46 pm
by MineSweeper
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
  I was talking about a non-replenishment TF with TKs loaded with fuel trying to refuel another TF.
That's what I am talking about....you can refuel task force A (SC TF - BBs, CAs and etc) from task force B (Transport TF - Tankers(with fuel), APs and ect....) at sea or in port.....

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:47 pm
by Mike Solli
That's odd.&nbsp; Gotta try that tonight.

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:19 pm
by MineSweeper
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

That's odd.  Gotta try that tonight.
An example.....[:)][:)][:)]
1. Transport TF w/ Tankers (with fuel)
2. SC TF low on fuel
3. Refueled SC TF from Transport TF
4. 2 Tankers are lower in fuel after fueling the SC TF.


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RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:21 pm
by Mike Solli
Now that I think about it, I believe you're transferring fuel from the transport TFs ship fuel supply, not the TK storage.&nbsp; I often see this happen in my cargo TFs refueling the small escorts.&nbsp; The only time I recall seeing a TK (not in a replenishment TF) refuel ships from the TK storage is internal to that TF (again, usually refueling the short range ships in the TF).

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:22 pm
by Cpt Sherwood
Maybe all of your TFs are sucking up the fuel unloaded each turn. If you have them set for auto refuel, they will suck the port dry.

RE: Can't seem to unload fuel at Moresby

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:22 pm
by Cpt Sherwood
strange double post