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My Fall Gelb and 18th tank division campaign for John Tillers Campaign Series.
http://files.filefront.com//;8350303;;/
I finished these campaigns 2002/2003 for the original game. You can play and use this for the new John Tillers Campaign Series-set.

H.Balck

** DO NOT install this set in your base East Front installation, they will require an additional East Front installation to work. ~ Jason Petho

[&o] Thanks! Are these LCGs or DCGs?

Hi,

Many thanks[&o]

But .. the Campaigns replace already here files in the EastFront directory.
Is this o.k. ?
(I assume the new files are the uncryptet old files after investigation the
files .. but i am not sure..)

Thanks
R_TEAM

ORIGINAL: R_TEAM

Hi,

Many thanks[&o]

But .. the Campaigns replace already here files in the EastFront directory.
Is this o.k. ?
(I assume the new files are the uncryptet old files after investigation the
files .. but i am not sure..)

Thanks
R_TEAM

These are LCGs, but it looks like he modified platoon00.xxx and platoon01.xxx as well as weapon.xxx for the EF campaign.
I don't think I would overwrite those files.....

The WF LCG is clean.

ORIGINAL: Juggalo

These are LCGs, but it looks like he modified platoon00.xxx and platoon01.xxx as well as weapon.xxx for the EF campaign.
I don't think I would overwrite those files.....

Good call. Do NOT replace the platoon or weapons files!!

Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: Juggalo

These are LCGs, but it looks like he modified platoon00.xxx and platoon01.xxx as well as weapon.xxx for the EF campaign.
I don't think I would overwrite those files.....

Good call. Do NOT replace the platoon or weapons files!!

Jason Petho

18th Panzer LCG caused EF.exe to crash. (did not overwrite platoon and weapon files)
Sadly, looks like this LCG isn't compatible with the Matrix version.[:(]

I didn't try the Fall Gelb LCG for WF cuz that would kill my Op. Sealion save file.[8|]

You could make a backup of the default platoon and weapon files and then replace them with the ones from Balck for the time playing his 18th tank division campaign. But then there is a problem of missing bmp files: UP01259.bmp, UP01258.bmp, UP01426.bmp, UP01416.bmp and UP01421.bmp.

Maybe Balck has created new units for his campaign? If so I hope he makes them available for download.

The Fall Gelb campaign seems to work as far as I tested it (only started the first scenario). What I noticed: There was no scenario briefing.

I always appreciate the creative work so many people here and at other places do in creating new scenarios, campaigns and other stuff for the Campaign Series. Thanks for making your work available, Balck!

Udet

You could make a backup of the default platoon and weapon files and then replace them with the ones from Balck for the time playing his 18th tank division campaign. But then there is a problem of missing bmp files: UP01259.bmp, UP01258.bmp, UP01426.bmp, UP01416.bmp and UP01421.bmp.

WF Matrix version has UP01259.bmp, UP01258.bmp and their platoons in the platoon01.oob they are K 408(i) 150mm Guns and K 417(f) 155mm Guns

P01258
The Cannone da 149/40 149mm howitzer was developed in 1935 to replace the older large-caliber army-level guns, but production was unable to meet demands. By 1942 only 51 were in service. Due to its superior quality, however, production of the 149/40 was maintained by the Germans after 1943. This howitzer saw action in Russia, North Africa and later on the Italian mainland.

MAX. RANGE
23700m
SHELL WEIGHT
46kg
WEIGHT IN ACTION
11340kg


P01259
The 155mm GPF Gun first saw action in 1917. With some modernization, it was still in service with the French Army in May 1940. The GPF was one of best pieces in the French inventory. After France's defeat, these guns were used by the German army as coastal artillery guns or in corps level artillery battalions. Some of them even served in North Africa with the DAK.

MAX RANGE
18,600m
SHELL WEIGHT
43kg
WEIGHT IN ACTION
10,750kg

UP01426.bmp, UP01416.bmp and UP01421.bmp dont exist as platoons in the old WF or EF or their Matrix versions.

What are these platoons supposed to be? Are they units added in this LCG to the plaoon01.oob and weapon files? I would guess they were custom units made to supplement the oob of the old WF game.

---- UPDATE
Yep I was right. Custom units:

Captured Trucks:

P01257 6 0 1 0 0 0 70 12 7 3 4 3 0 0 0 10 48 P01257 1 48 8 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Lastkraftwagen , LKW , Beute 1
P01258 6 0 1 0 0 0 70 12 7 3 4 3 0 0 0 10 48 P01258 1 48 8 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Lastkraftwagen , LKW , Beute 2

Light Prime Mover

P01259 4 0 1 0 0 0 60 10 7 3 4 3 0 0 0 10 48 P01259 1 40 8 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Krupp-Protze leichte Zugkraftwagen , Krupp-Protze ,

Leaders in different command vehicles


P01416 1 0 2 0 0 0 65 42 6 2 3 7 0 0 0 39 87 P01416 7 36 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 2 1 1 Befehlshaber 1 (gep.) SPW 251/3 , Befh. 1 (gep) ,
P01417 2 0 2 0 0 0 65 42 6 2 3 7 0 0 0 39 87 P01416 7 36 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 2 1 1 Befehlshaber 2 (gep.) SPW 251/3 , Befh. 2 (gep) ,
P01418 3 0 2 0 0 0 65 42 6 2 3 7 0 0 0 39 87 P01416 7 36 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 2 1 1 Befehlshaber 3 (gep.) SPW 251/3 , Befh. 3 (gep) ,
P01419 4 0 2 0 0 0 65 42 6 2 3 7 0 0 0 39 87 P01416 7 36 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 2 1 1 Befehlshaber 4 (gep.) SPW 251/3 , Befh. 4 (gep) ,
P01420 5 0 2 0 0 0 65 42 6 2 3 7 0 0 0 39 87 P01416 7 36 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 2 1 1 Befehlshaber 5 (gep.) SPW 251/3 , Befh. 5 (gep) ,
P01421 1 0 1 0 0 0 65 20 1 1 1 19 0 0 0 39 87 P01421 6 16 0 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Befehlshaber 1 (mot.) Horcher , Befh. 1 (mot) ,
P01422 2 0 1 0 0 0 65 20 1 1 1 19 0 0 0 39 87 P01421 6 16 0 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Befehlshaber 2 (mot.) Horcher , Befh. 2 (mot) ,
P01423 3 0 1 0 0 0 65 20 1 1 1 19 0 0 0 39 87 P01421 6 16 0 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Befehlshaber 3 (mot.) Horcher , Befh. 3 (mot) ,
P01424 4 0 1 0 0 0 65 20 1 1 1 19 0 0 0 39 87 P01421 6 16 0 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Befehlshaber 4 (mot.) Horcher , Befh. 4 (mot) ,
P01425 5 0 1 0 0 0 65 20 1 1 1 19 0 0 0 39 87 P01421 6 16 0 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Befehlshaber 5 (mot.) Horcher , Befh. 5 (mot) ,
P01426 1 1 4 0 0 0 85 31 6 1 4 4 0 0 0 39 87 P01426 7 40 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 4 1 1 Befehlshaber 1 (gep.) PSW 232(Fu) , Befh. 1 (gep) ,
P01427 2 1 4 0 0 0 85 31 6 1 4 4 0 0 0 39 87 P01426 7 40 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 4 1 1 Befehlshaber 2 (gep.) PSW 232(Fu) , Befh. 2 (gep) ,
P01428 3 1 4 0 0 0 85 31 6 1 4 4 0 0 0 39 87 P01426 7 40 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 4 1 1 Befehlshaber 3 (gep.) PSW 232(Fu) , Befh. 3 (gep) ,
P01429 4 1 4 0 0 0 85 31 6 1 4 4 0 0 0 39 87 P01426 7 40 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 4 1 1 Befehlshaber 4 (gep.) PSW 232(Fu) , Befh. 4 (gep) ,
P01430 5 1 4 0 0 0 85 31 6 1 4 4 0 0 0 39 87 P01426 7 40 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 4 1 1 Befehlshaber 5 (gep.) PSW 232(Fu) , Befh. 5 (gep) ,


This would have to be corrected to get the LCG to work with the Matrix EF game.
There may be more custom units in there too or in the Russians platoon00.oob. I didnt look any further.

Odd thing is these custom units Bmp and bit files are not included in the download file. If they were was one could use the LCG if one replaced the platoon00-01 and weapon files. Alternatively the platoon files could be edited to refer to the existing bmps of the vehilces which are in the game, like this:

P01257 6 0 1 0 0 0 70 12 7 3 4 3 0 0 0 10 48 P00044 1 48 8 0 0 0 39 9 45 5 0 0 0 Lastkraftwagen , LKW , Beute 1

P01416 1 0 2 0 0 0 65 42 6 2 3 7 0 0 0 39 87 P01036 7 36 0 1 0 0 39 9 45 5 2 1 1 Befehlshaber 1 (gep.) SPW 251/3 , Befh. 1 (gep) ,

Thanks for your detailed explanations, asiaticus!

I didn't look in WF for the missing files since the error happened in EF. Next time I will do.

I hope Balck will update his campaigns making them fitting to the matrix edition or at least that he will make the missing custom units available for download.

Udet

ORIGINAL: Udet

I hope Balck will update his campaigns making them fitting to the matrix edition or at least that he will make the missing custom units available for download.

Udet

I get the impression our good buddy H. Balck doesn't speak English. Can someone translate the problems to him in German?

I get the impression our good buddy H. Balck doesn't speak English. Can someone translate the problems to him in German?

Okay, here we go...

Hallo H. Balck!

Erst einmal vielen herzlichen Dank fürs das Zurverfügungstellen der beiden Kampagnen. Tolle Arbeit! "Fall Gelb" scheint auch ohne Probleme zu laufen. Mir fiel nur auf, als ich das erste Szenario angetestet habe, daß keine Einsatzbesprechung/Szenariobeschreibung vorhanden war. Aber das hindert einen ja nicht am Spielen.

Bei der "18. Panzer Division" Kampagne gibt es ein paar Schwierigkeiten, weil die platoon- und weapon-Dateien nicht mit denen der Matrix-Edition kompatibel sind. Wahrscheinlich hast Du keine Zeit für so etwas, aber wenn Du die anpassen könntest, wäre es super. Ich habe einfach mal die Matrix-Dateien durch Deine ersetzt (vorher natürlich Sicherungskopien gemacht). Danach konnte ich die Kampagne zwar starten, bekam aber eine Meldung, daß diverse bmp-Dateien fehlen:

UP01259.bmp, UP01258.bmp, UP01426.bmp, UP01416.bmp und UP01421.bmp

Die beiden ersten davon scheint es in "West Front" zu geben, wie asiaticus schreibt, die anderen aber wohl nicht. Also sind es neue Einheiten, die Du selbst für die Kampagne erstellt hast, nehme ich an. Es wäre schön, wenn Du die fehlenden Dateien auch zum Download bereitstellen könntest.

Noch einmal vielen Dank und Hut ab vor so viel Kreativität!

Udet

There should be an effort to avoid platoon number conflicts between games. The P01258-59 platoons that are artillery in WF should not be used in EF for the trucks. The idea is to use new unused numbers so the platoons can be used in either WF or EF.

Also we dont want to have any more bmp/bit images than we need to. If a bmp exists already for a platoon it should be used for another of the same type unless there is a good visual difference that makes in necessary. Saves space in the file. This includes captured vehicles and equipment where like the above mentioned trucks might be Russian or Italian or English or whatever they can refer to the other countries platoon bmp image number unless there is good reason to have a new image.

I hope these Campaigns will be updated so they can be used in the new Matrix versions!!??

I think it can be done by correcting the scenario org file and then editing the scenario file with the correct platoon numbers. I just did that with two of Curt Cabbage's Burma 42 scenarios originally done for RSFE to fix a problem with the BNA battalion. Now they work fine on the Matrix version.

You can always put the campaigns in a folder by themselves, with all downloaded files, and use the Jonessoft general mod enabler to play, then the stock files are in no danger. Any chance this link can be sticky'd??  http://www.beerymod.com/sh3_011.htm

Mike

ORIGINAL: Warhorse

You can always put the campaigns in a folder by themselves, with all downloaded files, and use the Jonessoft general mod enabler to play, then the stock files are in no danger. Any chance this link can be sticky'd??  http://www.beerymod.com/sh3_011.htm

Mike

But one problem is that there's some custom bitmaps that aren't included with the download.

I wonder how much of a bribe it would take to get asiaticus to clean this baby up and put it out with the next patch?

I recall liking Fall Gleb when I played a few scenarios a long time ago. Id like to see 18th Pz LCG fixed up and try it. Will be a while before I could get to it. If someone wants to try doing this themselves Id be happy to give some guidance and encrypt the suplimented platoon and weapon files.

Also the platoon 00 and 01 here are the old EF platoon files not the latest with all the new units we have added to the Russians and Germans. The new units should be added to the most recent Matrix platoon and weapon files and entries should be made to the unitext so we all know what these things are.

Hi,

i would prefere to integrate this and other Campaigns clean with no seperate
weapon or other files ...
This would make it more easy to join the 3 [4 with DG ] CS prg to one prg in the
Future ...

R_TEAM

There appear to be some scenarios missing in the 18th Panzer LCG, or the Zip is corrupted. The lcg file references to 16 scl files altogether but only 6 are included in the zip. Has this work ever been completed?

The LCG 18th armored division is a component with JTCS meets PG3D - there are 26 Scenarios. In addition you can play also the 4th armored division and the group of tanks of 2 "Guderian" and 3 "Hoth" in LCG-Campaigns.
Further is first planned to represent the retreat of the Soviet 4th Army in an LCG.

H.Balck (The god-creator)