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So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:17 am
by Manticore
[:D]
Why was the work cancelled on the Combat Leader (I think I got it right) game, when it seemed well into development and so Steel Panther-like? Do you guys have any plan in the near future to either continue working on Combat Leader or start working on a new Steel Pantherish game? Is the demand for that kind of game really that low to not merit making one?
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:25 am
by Hertston
The reason given was that the game just wasn't good enough, and so it was either a case of going back to square one or abandoning the project. They chose the latter option.. probably wisely IHMO.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:09 am
by Goblin
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:12 am
by Goblin
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:04 am
by JudgeDredd
That's good news. Steel Panthers was great for it's time (and still has a shed load of playability) but I always found the graphics off putting. Not because they are old had, but because I found it very hard to distinguish infantry, especially in wooded areas.
So a graphics update would be more than welcome.
Thx for that wee tidbit Goblin.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:22 am
by Manticore
Wow, that is great news.
The game could use graphic improvements such as supporting higher resolutions, but what I think it needs the most is improved AI. I'm assuming that most people play the game against the computer and play the game to enjoy those long campaigns, but the AI is too dumb as of now. It doesn't even use smoke screen before attacking, and it keeps sending in tanks into the same pit of death until there are five burning tanks in one square. Its typical strategy is to keep sending in infantry and tanks until the player runs out of ammos for the turn.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:30 pm
by Procrustes
It was the megacampaigns (esp. the Quadacanal & the US Airborne ones) that kept me playing for years - I think the AI did quite well if a human designed and programed the scenario first. And I actually think it did better with infantry than tank battles - I loved the way you could recreate a lot of the feel of Squad Leader. I did finally give up on the game, though - too clunky, ugly, and finally a bit too predictable. I would love a redesign of this game, or one like it, if that ever happens. I had high hopes for Combat Leader.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:55 pm
by Manticore
If it turns out like I want it to, it might be the only game in a while that I would be willing to spend $70 for. The last time I did that was for Pacific Theatre of Operation for Super Nintendo. Anyone remember that marvelous game? [:D]
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:23 pm
by Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: Manticore
If it turns out like I want it to, it might be the only game in a while that I would be willing to spend $70 for. The last time I did that was for Pacific Theatre of Operation for Super Nintendo. Anyone remember that marvelous game? [:D]
Of course [:D]
I played also PTO IV on PS2.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:12 am
by jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: Manticore
If it turns out like I want it to, it might be the only game in a while that I would be willing to spend $70 for. The last time I did that was for Pacific Theatre of Operation for Super Nintendo. Anyone remember that marvelous game? [:D]
Of course [:D]
I played also PTO IV on PS2.
PTO II on the Saturn was by far the best of the series. IV was a real let down but playable. At the risk of sounding lame I am a huge fan of console based strategy games for their pick-up-and-play-me nature.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:18 pm
by Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: Manticore
If it turns out like I want it to, it might be the only game in a while that I would be willing to spend $70 for. The last time I did that was for Pacific Theatre of Operation for Super Nintendo. Anyone remember that marvelous game? [:D]
Of course [:D]
I played also PTO IV on PS2.
PTO II on the Saturn was by far the best of the series. IV was a real let down but playable. At the risk of sounding lame I am a huge fan of console based strategy games for their pick-up-and-play-me nature.
Quite right! [&o]
KOEI makes great games on PS2 only let down is resolution of PS2 who is now inferior console... their chinese PC versions have better resolution and some guys have translated chinese PC versions but I never had time to actually try it.
there is great forum for ROTK games here:
http://the-scholars.com/viewforum.php?f ... e7bf7aae6d
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:57 pm
by jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
Of course [:D]
I played also PTO IV on PS2.
PTO II on the Saturn was by far the best of the series. IV was a real let down but playable. At the risk of sounding lame I am a huge fan of console based strategy games for their pick-up-and-play-me nature.
Quite right! [&o]
KOEI makes great games on PS2 only let down is resolution of PS2 who is now inferior console... their chinese PC versions have better resolution and some guys have translated chinese PC versions but I never had time to actually try it.
there is great forum for ROTK games here:
http://the-scholars.com/viewforum.php?f ... e7bf7aae6d
I've not played any of the PC ROTKs but of course ran the gamut of console based ones. Haven't been able to afford XI yet but hopefully soon. I don't really need the eye candy though it doesn't hurt. I'm a huge follower (and faqqer, for that matter) of the SystemSoft Alpha's Daisenryaku series of games. These are quick, hex based, TBS games set in either WWII or the modern era. Iron Storm was one such Daisenryaku translated to English on the Saturn but the XBox and soon the PS2 have English versions as well. The latter two are modern era and as I'm sure you know but I'll say for the benefit of those who don't: Iron Storm is set during WWII. Iron Storm is, for strategy gamers, the Saturn's shining moment, it's a real gem and I highly recommend it if you can find it. It tends to be on the rare side.
All that being said the PSP and DS are both region free and there are 2 Daisenryakus and 1 Daisenryaku for each of the handhelds respectively. I've translated the PSP versions and have a FAQ started for the DS version but all of them are easily accessible through trial and error. I'd recommend the PSP versions over the DS version for a couple of reasons, a bug in the DS version causing a loss of unlocked units being foremost.
Oh gads, now I've drug this topic far off course and console strategy games are CERTAINLY no replacement for the depth and awesomeness of Steel Panthers so I'll shaddup now. Cheers.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:36 am
by KG Erwin
If improvements in the AI routines aren't forthcoming, any graphics enhancements are meaningless. The silent majority are solo players.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:32 am
by Manticore
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
PTO II on the Saturn was by far the best of the series. IV was a real let down but playable. At the risk of sounding lame I am a huge fan of console based strategy games for their pick-up-and-play-me nature.
Quite right! [&o]
KOEI makes great games on PS2 only let down is resolution of PS2 who is now inferior console... their chinese PC versions have better resolution and some guys have translated chinese PC versions but I never had time to actually try it.
there is great forum for ROTK games here:
http://the-scholars.com/viewforum.php?f ... e7bf7aae6d
I've not played any of the PC ROTKs but of course ran the gamut of console based ones. Haven't been able to afford XI yet but hopefully soon. I don't really need the eye candy though it doesn't hurt. I'm a huge follower (and faqqer, for that matter) of the SystemSoft Alpha's Daisenryaku series of games. These are quick, hex based, TBS games set in either WWII or the modern era. Iron Storm was one such Daisenryaku translated to English on the Saturn but the XBox and soon the PS2 have English versions as well. The latter two are modern era and as I'm sure you know but I'll say for the benefit of those who don't: Iron Storm is set during WWII. Iron Storm is, for strategy gamers, the Saturn's shining moment, it's a real gem and I highly recommend it if you can find it. It tends to be on the rare side.
All that being said the PSP and DS are both region free and there are 2 Daisenryakus and 1 Daisenryaku for each of the handhelds respectively. I've translated the PSP versions and have a FAQ started for the DS version but all of them are easily accessible through trial and error. I'd recommend the PSP versions over the DS version for a couple of reasons, a bug in the DS version causing a loss of unlocked units being foremost.
Oh gads, now I've drug this topic far off course and console strategy games are CERTAINLY no replacement for the depth and awesomeness of Steel Panthers so I'll shaddup now. Cheers.
Read the book. Quite daunting, but it will enrich your gaming experience so much more.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:33 am
by Manticore
ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
If improvements in the AI routines aren't forthcoming, any graphics enhancements are meaningless. The silent majority are solo players.
Sadly, the silent majority also doesn't complain [;)]
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:17 am
by jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Manticore
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
Quite right! [&o]
KOEI makes great games on PS2 only let down is resolution of PS2 who is now inferior console... their chinese PC versions have better resolution and some guys have translated chinese PC versions but I never had time to actually try it.
there is great forum for ROTK games here:
http://the-scholars.com/viewforum.php?f ... e7bf7aae6d
I've not played any of the PC ROTKs but of course ran the gamut of console based ones. Haven't been able to afford XI yet but hopefully soon. I don't really need the eye candy though it doesn't hurt. I'm a huge follower (and faqqer, for that matter) of the SystemSoft Alpha's Daisenryaku series of games. These are quick, hex based, TBS games set in either WWII or the modern era. Iron Storm was one such Daisenryaku translated to English on the Saturn but the XBox and soon the PS2 have English versions as well. The latter two are modern era and as I'm sure you know but I'll say for the benefit of those who don't: Iron Storm is set during WWII. Iron Storm is, for strategy gamers, the Saturn's shining moment, it's a real gem and I highly recommend it if you can find it. It tends to be on the rare side.
All that being said the PSP and DS are both region free and there are 2 Daisenryakus and 1 Daisenryaku for each of the handhelds respectively. I've translated the PSP versions and have a FAQ started for the DS version but all of them are easily accessible through trial and error. I'd recommend the PSP versions over the DS version for a couple of reasons, a bug in the DS version causing a loss of unlocked units being foremost.
Oh gads, now I've drug this topic far off course and console strategy games are CERTAINLY no replacement for the depth and awesomeness of Steel Panthers so I'll shaddup now. Cheers.
Read the book. Quite daunting, but it will enrich your gaming experience so much more.
You assume that I have not? Please, I even read them to my three year old! ^_^
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:24 pm
by Manticore
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
ORIGINAL: Manticore
ORIGINAL: jvgfanatic
I've not played any of the PC ROTKs but of course ran the gamut of console based ones. Haven't been able to afford XI yet but hopefully soon. I don't really need the eye candy though it doesn't hurt. I'm a huge follower (and faqqer, for that matter) of the SystemSoft Alpha's Daisenryaku series of games. These are quick, hex based, TBS games set in either WWII or the modern era. Iron Storm was one such Daisenryaku translated to English on the Saturn but the XBox and soon the PS2 have English versions as well. The latter two are modern era and as I'm sure you know but I'll say for the benefit of those who don't: Iron Storm is set during WWII. Iron Storm is, for strategy gamers, the Saturn's shining moment, it's a real gem and I highly recommend it if you can find it. It tends to be on the rare side.
All that being said the PSP and DS are both region free and there are 2 Daisenryakus and 1 Daisenryaku for each of the handhelds respectively. I've translated the PSP versions and have a FAQ started for the DS version but all of them are easily accessible through trial and error. I'd recommend the PSP versions over the DS version for a couple of reasons, a bug in the DS version causing a loss of unlocked units being foremost.
Oh gads, now I've drug this topic far off course and console strategy games are CERTAINLY no replacement for the depth and awesomeness of Steel Panthers so I'll shaddup now. Cheers.
Read the book. Quite daunting, but it will enrich your gaming experience so much more.
You assume that I have not? Please, I even read them to my three year old! ^_^
Then his future is ensured. [8D]
I also recommend Genghis Khan 2 if you haven't played that yet. Simple, but addictive.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:16 am
by Arctic Blast
I also recommend Genghis Khan 2 if you haven't played that yet. Simple, but addictive.
Man, I got hopelessly addicted to that game on the Sega Genesis...it gets it's hooks in to you, and doesn't let go for years!
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:50 am
by ravinhood
I learned the true meaning of Fried Rice when I played the ROTK series.
RE: So.... when is the next-gen Steel Panthers coming?
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:08 am
by junk2drive
If you guys want to start your own nostalgia thread...
Back to Steel Panthers, I would like all the engine detail of SP with the 3D isometric view of Campaign series and Squad Battles.