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A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:54 pm
by boogada
The game I just started is very odd. I chose the Entente in 1914. I planed a direct Russian attack directed at Berlin with all forces, also attacking East-Prussia and just keeping a few units at the Austrian Boarder. Also I moved all British troops to Antwerpen once the CP attacked.

The AI played a 200% Schliefen, there was absolutely NO defense of East Prussia, or Germany at all. The only resistance came when I arrived at Berlin, but couldn't stop the Russians. I had like 5 looses in the east while I conquered Königsberg, Danzig, Breslau, Posen and Berlin. I am on my way to Hamburg. There was barely any action at the Austrian Boarder. I almost conquered the Galician cities when the AI moved the Austrian troops to Germany after my attack, but I had all remaining HQ points in Germany and none in Austria...

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RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:55 pm
by boogada
At the same time the Serbs conquered Sarajewo and Ragusa..what's with the Habsburg monarchy?



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RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:57 pm
by boogada
In the West the BEF moved to Antwerpen once war was declared, including the Egyptian Garrison! So I counterattacked at the left German wing. The Germans had some success in the middle of the front and in the south, but I could stop them and even drive them back when the first reserves arrived at the front.



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RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:58 pm
by boogada
Ok so I conquered Berlin, the Serbs punished Austria and the Germans missed all strategical aims in the west, and all that in 3 turns....

But what do I get?

A MARGINAL ENTENTE VICTORY

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RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:23 pm
by hjaco
Hey, what else would you call a - 1 victory [:D]

Continue the game and you will get a decisive victory within a year.

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:40 pm
by boogada
Hey, what else would you call a - 1 victory [:D]

Sure but what kind of maths is behind this? I conquered a dozen enemy cities and my losses aren't as high as his, at the west the armys neutralize each other and the Russian Juggernaut is crushing the Germans. Austria, not under attack from the Russians can't even stop Serbia from invading!
Continue the game and you will get a decisive victory within a year.

more like 2 month...

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:03 pm
by SMK-at-work
you only get a marginal victory 'cos you're a wus ending the war early!!  Serves you right.....[:D][:D]

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:05 pm
by hjaco
Look at 24.0 in the manual.

Your score is based on current morale for your countries (probably total loss) + Cities taken/lost + conquered countries.

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:21 am
by boogada
My status:

France: Casualties 313, morale 88%
Russia: Casualties 33, morale 100%
Britain: Casualties 58, morale 99%
Belgium: Casualties 18, morale 100%
Serbia: Casualties 26, morale 100%

Enemy status (I can see this during a bug I will tell about in a new thread)

Germany: Casualties 445, morale 28%
Austria: Casualties 77, morale 70%

Cities lost: Verdun (7), Luxemburg (1)
Cities conquered: Sarajewo (8), Ragusa (7), Breslau (10), Posen (5), Danzig (8), Königsberg (10), Berlin (50)

My enemy has conquered exactly 4 hexes (1 Luxemburg, 1 Belgium, 2 France), no enemy soldier has entered Russia or Serbia and my troops are celebrating at the Brandenburger Tor....

Still I have no idea how I get one point only.

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:31 am
by Szilard
ORIGINAL: boogada

My status:

France: Casualties 313, morale 88%
Russia: Casualties 33, morale 100%
Britain: Casualties 58, morale 99%
Belgium: Casualties 18, morale 100%
Serbia: Casualties 26, morale 100%

Enemy status (I can see this during a bug I will tell about in a new thread)

Germany: Casualties 445, morale 28%
Austria: Casualties 77, morale 70%

Cities lost: Verdun (7), Luxemburg (1)
Cities conquered: Sarajewo (8), Ragusa (7), Breslau (10), Posen (5), Danzig (8), Königsberg (10), Berlin (50)

My enemy has conquered exactly 4 hexes (1 Luxemburg, 1 Belgium, 2 France), no enemy soldier has entered Russia or Serbia and my troops are celebrating at the Brandenburger Tor....

Still I have no idea how I get one point only.

Obviously needs some fixing ...

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:03 am
by boogada
2 turns later German morale is down to 0, but they keep fighting. So now the Allied offensive on the Western Front is not allowed to stop, no matter how high casualties are. Oh and the CP at last started some attacks, they retook Sarajewo and Ragusa and also conquered Belgrade. But at the same time Russia got Lemberg and Prezmysl. British troops have seized Wilhelmshafen. 

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:25 am
by SMK-at-work
the ONLY way you can get a decisive victory is to KO the other side.

At 0 morale Germany should surrender next turn (not impulse)

RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:26 am
by boogada
Finally in October 1915 Germany surrenders after British forces have crossed the Rhine and are now celebrating in the Kölner Dom. Due to lack of HQ's the Russians were in the suburbs of Leipzig, Dresden, Magdeburg and Hannover and would have gotten all those the next turn.



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RE: A marginal victory?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:27 am
by boogada
ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work
the ONLY way you can get a decisive victory is to KO the other side.

Fair enough, but one point only? [&:]