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Question: Do These Stadiums Exist?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:54 pm
by MPHopcroft1
I'm in the process of finally getting my full-version copy and I have questions about whether these exist:

1. Ballparks for the Japanese major Leagues;

2. Ballparks for the 1940s and 50s Pacific Coast League (the period where it looked like that league would challenge for major-league status.


RE: Question: Do These Stadiums Exist?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:20 pm
by KG Erwin
1. No

2. I think a few of these DO exist. Check Padres Fan's site. http://web.mac.com/sixwilsons/iWeb/Pure ... /Main.html

RE: Question: Do These Stadiums Exist?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:20 am
by MPHopcroft1
Thanks. I noticed that pureSim does not list any markets outside of North America; furstrating if you want to bring a ballclub to London, Berlin, Tokyo or Beijing.

However, there are many markets existing in the game that do not have ballparks attrached, because apparently they never had parks that were believed capable of supporting major league basebasll. Of course, Seattle's Sicks Stasium, LA Wrigley Field and Seals Stadium in San Francisco did host major league clubs for relatively short periods of time.

So here's the idea: Suppose i want to create a two-leage, 16-team project with the Federal and Pacific Coast Leagues as the major leagues. The year I start the p;layer pool is irrelevant to the question. I want every team to have a stadium, ideally one that is pre-existing in the system. No problem for the Federals, who have their m 1910's facilities (presumably modernized). However, there are some PCL clubs that I would have trouble finding good homes for right now:

1. Portland Beavers (Neither Vaughn Street Park nor Multonomah/Civic stadium is in the game. Although PGE Park no longer has the cpaacity to host a  mjaor league franshise, Civis Stadiium did in the 60s and 70s and vaughn Street probably did as well).
2. Sacramento (I've even forgotten the name of the Sacarmento PCL franchise -- I know it existed).
3. Hollywood Stars
4. Vancouver Canadiens
5. Oakland Oaks (there is an existing stadium in oakland, but it isn't Oaks Stadium).

A while back, someone sent me partial measurements and dimensions for all mPCL parks of the relevant era. Some of the uniue characteristics of Ciivc stadium, for example (that enormous wall stretching across left anf center fields because the stadium was essentially built underground) aren't addressed in the figures I've been given. I've seen PCL history sites, but none of them have the dimensions I need, or photographos of the ballparks from the perspective Puresim would want. (Then again, such photographs may not exist for many of the Federal League parks, many of which were torn down almost a century ago).

RE: Question: Do These Stadiums Exist?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:37 am
by KG Erwin
canceled

RE: Question: Do These Stadiums Exist?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:57 pm
by MPHopcroft1
well, I managed to create a >ZIP file containing, in PureSim .prk for, what information I have on:

GIlmore Field (Hollywood)
Emeryville park (Oakland)
Vaughn street park (Portland)
Edmonds Field (sacramento)
Lane Field (San Diego)
Nat bailey stadium (Vancounver, BC).

I'd appreciate it if someone with some talent for these things could look them over and make any needed corrections. I have the dimensions I was given by Stpehen Davis 9so he should get most of the credit for these parks), but I also see games in the information that could lead to off results and affect game play weirdly.

I also saw no way to adjust for the size of foul ground (relative), an important consideration in some parts. One of the reasons the old oakland Coliseum was so deadly a pitcher's park was that enormous stretch of foul terriotory let fielders turn harmless foul-aways into outs and reduced pitch counts.