Missing & unlikely combatants
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:56 pm
Portugal - fielded 2 divisions as Corpo Expedicionário Português, CEP (effectively a corps) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_in_the_Great_War. Seized German ships in Portuguese ports at British request Feb 1916, Germany declared war March 1914, decided to field a corps August 1916 and first troops arrive at Brest February 1917, arriving at the front in April. Troops were to be withdrawn from frontline March 1918 as too poorly equipped, but German offensives meant they had to stay in the line.
A 3rd Portuguese division never arrived, so the 2 divisions alrady in France had to serve extended periods in the front line and were aparently the most exhausted units on the allied side. Lost about 1/3rd its force at battle of Lys April 1918 & survivors were incorporated into various British units.
I suggest it could be represented by an 18 pt corps, with an initial minimal reinforcement pool 93 or 4 points?) representing troops being returned to the lien rather than reinforcements per se - once htey are gone it would rapidly become exhausted.
Portugal also fielded a significant nubmerof artillery crews to man French heavy artillery batteries, but I think they are adequately represented by French arty as is.
Portugal should only join the war if the UK & France are both still fighting
Brazil - when Brazil declared war in October 1917 they were able to seize German 46 ships in its ports. Brazilian food was an important addition to the alied supplies in 1918. Brazil only sent a medical contingent and some individual soldiers as observers by the end of the war, but the game goes to the end of 1918, and there are tantalising hints on the web that they may have been mobilising in 1918......so perhaps they should be represented by a Corps, or possibly even 2, from mid-1919? but only if the USA is in the war.
Lastly there is Romania - the number of times Romania joins the war after Russia surrenders is jsut plain silly - can we have a rule to stop it happening please??
A 3rd Portuguese division never arrived, so the 2 divisions alrady in France had to serve extended periods in the front line and were aparently the most exhausted units on the allied side. Lost about 1/3rd its force at battle of Lys April 1918 & survivors were incorporated into various British units.
I suggest it could be represented by an 18 pt corps, with an initial minimal reinforcement pool 93 or 4 points?) representing troops being returned to the lien rather than reinforcements per se - once htey are gone it would rapidly become exhausted.
Portugal also fielded a significant nubmerof artillery crews to man French heavy artillery batteries, but I think they are adequately represented by French arty as is.
Portugal should only join the war if the UK & France are both still fighting
Brazil - when Brazil declared war in October 1917 they were able to seize German 46 ships in its ports. Brazilian food was an important addition to the alied supplies in 1918. Brazil only sent a medical contingent and some individual soldiers as observers by the end of the war, but the game goes to the end of 1918, and there are tantalising hints on the web that they may have been mobilising in 1918......so perhaps they should be represented by a Corps, or possibly even 2, from mid-1919? but only if the USA is in the war.
Lastly there is Romania - the number of times Romania joins the war after Russia surrenders is jsut plain silly - can we have a rule to stop it happening please??