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Nothing, so far as I know now, because I haven't bought it yet.
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But there are too many threads here to read and understand the status of for someone still considering purchase.
And In this case I especially haven't found any usefull AAR (Haven't even found one that contains screenshots). A link anyone?
No demo either.
So I'm left with little more than opinions and such.
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So what I'd like to know, given this is no longer a brand new release, is what is still wrong with the game? And how likely is it whatever those things are they might still get fixed?
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Did they ever address the complaints about repairing ships in port, or the transport movement speed?
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What is wrong with this game still?
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I will say that I find it to be a beautiful looking game graphically which lends me to believe the interface won't be nearly as archaic as some of them, which is something I'm quite fond of (A bad interface turns me off faster than any single other aspect of a game) - Something diffucult to gauge without a demo.

Thanks much.

The game is excellent - I would say nothing is wrong at all - just played a fantastic game where Axis took UK because the British were too committed to the Med - then Russia was still a bear - a few tweaks I would like, and always people including me want more features - but remember every new feature can add bugs, so for now - very stable runs well - no real bugs - no crash bugs - perfect!

ORIGINAL: Vypuero

just played a fantastic game where Axis took UK because the British were too committed to the Med

Was that PBEM?

The lack of any Allied commitment on the periphery (Africa, Italy, Mediterranean, Norway, etc. (against the AI) is the one great flaw in this game. The AI is very good in the main theater.

As to how likely that is to be fixed, you'll have to ask the developers about that.

Sheesh - what a homer <g>

ORIGINAL: Vypuero

The game is excellent - I would say nothing is wrong at all - just played a fantastic game where Axis took UK because the British were too committed to the Med - then Russia was still a bear - a few tweaks I would like, and always people including me want more features - but remember every new feature can add bugs, so for now - very stable runs well - no real bugs - no crash bugs - perfect!

Why does this guy hate the interface so? Whats wrong with it?

http://wroteontheground.blogspot.com/se ... wo%20stars

This game as it few shorcomings as you will find in any other game. If you like to play WW2 in Europe from a high level, in an easy and exiting way, this is the game you are looking for. The units are nicely illustrated, and the map and game it self is crisp an clear. The game is easy to play, hard to master. It is absolutely no reason to NOT buy it if you like WW2 games.

Veldor, I agree it is hard to gauge the value of a game without a demo. I am playing CEAW as well as SCWaW, and occasionally HoI Doomsday. On the whole I believe that CEAW is the most accessable game. The interface is great, don't know what the reviewer means. Gameplay is smooth. You just have to accept that is is abstracted and not really meant to reproduce WW II in detail. The AI does an OK job, PBEM is where CEAW really shines. Bottom line: I am glad I eventually bought CEAW as it is fun to play.

I understand people have likes and dislikes about CEAW's and that's fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion and you're never going to create a game that everyone likes. This kind of thing is very subjective.

The interface however is not subjective and CEAW has one of the best UI's in this type of game, if not the best. If this guy says otherwise it means he doesn't really know what he's talking about and is wrong! The only complaint he mentioned was that the text over the anchors was not very readable. He played in high spec with a low spec PC and complains the sound was choppy....sigh. This kind of statement really annoys me!

FYI Here is a screenshot from his game



I guess this makes him an expert

It was TCP/IP live game.&nbsp; Best way to play - exceptionally challenging and it really brings out the best in the game.&nbsp; Look, it has been a long time since I have been able to play any live internet games that were any good - strategic - games, let alone WW II.&nbsp; I played this hours on end with no bugs, no crashes.&nbsp; It occasionally can happen, but I am not convinced it&nbsp;is not just the occasional burp from my own ISP.&nbsp; I have yet to see any other strategic games (not realtime - I hate realtime)&nbsp;that are this good in live play.

ORIGINAL: Veldor
Why does this guy hate the interface so? Whats wrong with it?
http://wroteontheground.blogspot.com/se ... wo%20stars

You'd have to ask Mike. [;)] I find the interface very easy personally, but Mike can be a bit idiosyncratic in his reviews (in my opinion). For example, he HATES Forge of Freedom, which is one of my favorite releases in the last year and one of the main problem he has with it is also the interface, which I find slightly challenging but far from bad. From my read of his review, he wanted the interface in CEAW to be more "slick" but I'm not sure what that really means. The whole game seems pretty "slick" to me.

ORIGINAL: Vypuero

It was TCP/IP live game.

Can TCP/IP games be saved? Is there an autosave maybe (In case that game crashes)? And how long does one match lasts?

TCP/IP can be saved
it autosaves at the end of every turn
a match can take awhile maybe 8 to 10 hours?

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

He played in high spec with a low spec PC and complains the sound was choppy....sigh. This kind of statement really annoys me!

LOL, I turn the sound off. It is fine but who really needs it in this type of game?

Guys, CEAW is an outstanding game. HOWEVER, I was playing SC2-WAW last night and the AI in that game is much more active in Norway and Africa and it REALLY opens up the game. Is it possible some more work might be done to have the Allies take action in those 2 areas?

Well if you want a deep micromanagement game and strictly historical , game that require you to read the whole 200++ pages of manual before you able to complete a turn then STOP reading . this is
not your type of game

But if you are looking for a " Panzer General with a lot of depth , retaining the same addictive , great gameplay , "easy to get into and hard to master " then dont wait any longer .... do yourself a favor and grab this game ...

What wrong with the game ? I think by the time you wait for everything to be fix , you have lost a great amount of the most enjoyable gaming session for you this year

The game now is very stable and maybe 1-2 small flaw but overall it is an excellent game

CEAW and together with Advance Tactics are going to be my GAME OF thE YEAR for 2007

[:D][:D]

ORIGINAL: Veldor

Why does this guy hate the interface so? Whats wrong with it?

http://wroteontheground.blogspot.com/se ... wo%20stars

Veldor, the interface excellent!

In the game you have an optin to use "Panzer General" counters or more traditional 2D counters. I use ther latter.

My only issue with the interface it is that in the purchase screen, the graphics resemble toy soldiers. I would prefer they look like wargaming counters.

As with all games, PBEM is the best type of play


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Suggested enhancements:
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Italy and Russia be able to move troops before they enter the war.
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Subs be able to "hit and run".&nbsp; But that deserves it's own thread.
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Air units should be able to stack over land units. &nbsp;

only thing I dont like is no replay in PBEM like SC2 just arrows and dots where battles are, you dont even get to see the geramsn attack many of the minors cuzs it over when you get the file

other than that I dont have any complaints other than I suck vs my one PBEM game so far

Steve

Alright , let me settle this topic once and for all (LOL)[:D]. I have SC2 , SC2WAW, Grigsbys WAW and CEAW. I find them all good games and fun. They have similarities yet, nuances that make them different enough to keep both on your computer and play. I think both games are good choices because they have a good following, good support, and attempts to make them better games with patches. They are above beer and pretzel games (axis & Allies) but well below , pull your hair out (Uncommon Valor, war in the pacific) these are for the people who want the tedium and headaches(actual ones) that go with fighting a war. They are easier to understand and follow the strategy than Grigsbys WAW. I would use this test to decide to buy it or not:
1) Did you like Panzer General? Yes keep going to next question. No , stop and do not buy.
2) Do you like games that have that one more turn appeal? Yes, keep going to next question&nbsp;. &nbsp;No , stop do not buy
3) Do you like resource management&nbsp;to be a big part of the game? Yes, stop and do not buy.&nbsp; No, go to next question.
4) Do you like the ability to feel like you have a grasp of your war fronts?&nbsp; Yes , go to next question. No, stop and do not buy.
5) Congrats you have made it and you will be happy, go click and&nbsp;buy this game CEAW!
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&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope that this does not offend anyones point of views, but I tried to make it simple. Any more questions and this game would be too simple for you! LOL [;)]

You forgot&nbsp;"do you like your game to be believable alternate history?"&nbsp; Yes - stop - do not buy.&nbsp; No/don't care - carry on.