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Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:54 pm
by Jimmer
I'm playing Turkey, and I have place all my legal units. The only thing that's not on-map are three empty fleet counters and the Nizami Cedid corps counter. It tells me that I need to place all my units, and won't let me quit.
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:57 pm
by donkuchi19
Did you place the Syrian Corps counter and factors?
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:20 pm
by Jimmer
There's no Syrian corps on the screen, and the help text doesn't mention Free States (except to state that you have to place them).
However, after some playing around, I figured out how.
A suggestion for playability: Have this better documented. The manual doesn't mention how, and the button you have to click has no "hover text" balloon.
However, this doesn't solve the problem. It still claims I haven't set up all my units.
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:20 pm
by Monadman
Jimmer,
When you click the “end current phase” button does the program:
1. Show a message window that says: “Must place all forces during at setup” or;
2. Show error message in status panel (red text) that says: “add forces or remove unit”
If #1: click any land area on the map and view the Status Panel. It will show the current major power’s available factors during setup. You need to add them before advancing the game.
If it is #2 then you have an empty counter on the map that you must remove or place factors into
Btw, you’re correct about the minor country counter pool; it was only mentioned in the section covering the Reinforcement Phase but not in the Setup Phase section. Also the available factors in the status panel during setup were not mentioned. Both will be added for in-game manual update and as addendum for printed manual.
Thanks
Richard
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:20 pm
by Jimmer
ORIGINAL: Monadman
Jimmer,
When you click the “end current phase” button does the program:
1. Show a message window that says: “Must place all forces during at setup” or;
2. Show error message in status panel (red text) that says: “add forces or remove unit”
If #1: click any land area on the map and view the Status Panel. It will show the current major power’s available factors during setup. You need to add them before advancing the game.
If it is #2 then you have an empty counter on the map that you must remove or place factors into
Btw, you’re correct about the minor country counter pool; it was only mentioned in the section covering the Reinforcement Phase but not in the Setup Phase section. Also the available factors in the status panel during setup were not mentioned. Both will be added for in-game manual update and as addendum for printed manual.
Thanks
Richard
It's #1, but your solution does not work. I have no factors left to place. All of the infantry are in corps and garrisons, and all of the cavalry are in corps.
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:24 pm
by JavaJoe
ORIGINAL: Jimmer
ORIGINAL: Monadman
Jimmer,
When you click the “end current phase” button does the program:
1. Show a message window that says: “Must place all forces during at setup” or;
2. Show error message in status panel (red text) that says: “add forces or remove unit”
If #1: click any land area on the map and view the Status Panel. It will show the current major power’s available factors during setup. You need to add them before advancing the game.
If it is #2 then you have an empty counter on the map that you must remove or place factors into
Btw, you’re correct about the minor country counter pool; it was only mentioned in the section covering the Reinforcement Phase but not in the Setup Phase section. Also the available factors in the status panel during setup were not mentioned. Both will be added for in-game manual update and as addendum for printed manual.
Thanks
Richard
It's #1, but your solution does not work. I have no factors left to place. All of the infantry are in corps and garrisons, and all of the cavalry are in corps.
Fleets too?
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:18 pm
by Jimmer
Hmmm. That could be it. I put all the heavies in place, but I might have left the light ones out. I'll check when I get back home.
Thanks for the tip, JavaJoe!
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:35 pm
by Monadman
ORIGINAL: Jimmer
Hmmm. That could be it. I put all the heavies in place, but I might have left the light ones out. I'll check when I get back home.
Thanks for the tip, JavaJoe!
Then you should see the ships that are available for placement in the status panel. In this example, there are 10 light and 10 transports available for placement.
Richard

RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:48 pm
by JavaJoe
ORIGINAL: Monadman
ORIGINAL: Jimmer
Hmmm. That could be it. I put all the heavies in place, but I might have left the light ones out. I'll check when I get back home.
Thanks for the tip, JavaJoe!
Then you should see the ships that are available for placement in the status panel. In this example, there are 10 light and 10 transports available for placement.
Richard
Maybe a flashing flaming skull pointing to that in the next patch?

RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:09 pm
by Jimmer
Yup, it was the light fleets. Thanks!
RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:45 pm
by Monadman
ORIGINAL: JavaJoe
ORIGINAL: Monadman
ORIGINAL: Jimmer
Hmmm. That could be it. I put all the heavies in place, but I might have left the light ones out. I'll check when I get back home.
Thanks for the tip, JavaJoe!
Then you should see the ships that are available for placement in the status panel. In this example, there are 10 light and 10 transports available for placement.
Richard
Maybe a flashing flaming skull pointing to that in the next patch?
We need a manual of illustrations with few words. Like this:

RE: Possible bug: Can't exit "starting units" phase
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:03 am
by JavaJoe
ORIGINAL: Monadman
ORIGINAL: JavaJoe
ORIGINAL: Monadman
Then you should see the ships that are available for placement in the status panel. In this example, there are 10 light and 10 transports available for placement.
Richard
Maybe a flashing flaming skull pointing to that in the next patch?
We need a manual of illustrations with few words. Like this:
Richard,
That's not a bad idea to illustrate it that way. It will help a lot pf people. I wish I was as savvy with it as you