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ORIGINAL: MrBoats
I remember the Road to Moscow project some years back -- does anyone know what ever happened to it?

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I remember ogling the thing all those years ago. Too bad they didn't actually have a shot of making a playable game out of it.

Reminds me a bit of the old PC game Patriot; a good idea, but 0/10 in implementation.

ORIGINAL: sulla05

At least Road To Moscow was never sold. Does anyone remember UMS series. I think it was UMS 3 that I was absolutely in love with from the previews. Too bad that an intel quad was needed to run a 94? game. I tried and tried to play it. Imagine an operational Alaxander's campaigns. Oh the horror.

the RtM game concept is - apart from the over-ambitious scope - virtually identical to the Airborne Assault series games.

ORIGINAL: pzgndr

the RtM game concept is - apart from the over-ambitious scope - virtually identical to the Airborne Assault series games.

It would be interesting to see Panther Games try something like this. Apply their tactical game engine and AI to a larger operational conflict with division-size units and independent regt/bde units. Not real-time though, but perhaps daily or half-day time increments. It would have to be manageable for a full Russian Front wargame. It sure would be nice to give orders to corps or armies or entire army groups and then have a decent AI execute your plans, allowing players to pause the action to reorganize forces and reassign objectives as needed. [8D]

ORIGINAL: Peter Fisla
I really liked the idea of RtM, I wonder if the developer is still working on the project on its own...from my point of view it's a very interesting project and I would like to see it making it happen - even if in a limited scope.

ORIGINAL: Nemesis
I had UMS2, and I played it on an Amiga 500. I never got past the first turn in any scenario, since it took the AI about 45 minutes to go through its turn .
Now, if someone took UMS, modernized it and brought it back to modern times, things would get interesting. I think we finally have enough CPU-power to handle UMS .

ORIGINAL: sterckxe

ORIGINAL: Peter Fisla
I really liked the idea of RtM, I wonder if the developer is still working on the project on its own...from my point of view it's a very interesting project and I would like to see it making it happen - even if in a limited scope.

"Battlefield Design Group is composed of long-time game developer Jeff Billings, formerly of MicroProse, systems guru Andy Finkel of Commodore's Amiga fame, and Phil Gardocki, designer and developer of the original ROAD TO MOSCOW game published in 1984 for the Commodore 64. Ken Maniscalco and John Caskey round out the group, bringing over fifty years of gaming, engineering, and scholarly experience to the team."

Maybe if you're interested enough you can trace one of these guys.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

ORIGINAL: sterckxe

ORIGINAL: pzgndr

the RtM game concept is - apart from the over-ambitious scope - virtually identical to the Airborne Assault series games.

It would be interesting to see Panther Games try something like this. Apply their tactical game engine and AI to a larger operational conflict with division-size units and independent regt/bde units. Not real-time though, but perhaps daily or half-day time increments. It would have to be manageable for a full Russian Front wargame. It sure would be nice to give orders to corps or armies or entire army groups and then have a decent AI execute your plans, allowing players to pause the action to reorganize forces and reassign objectives as needed. [8D]

A COTA or HTTR game with a couple of hundred units each side is perfectly managable. This means that current technology and hardware can manage a Barbarossa type game at the divisional level. Such a game would be awesome.

Such a strategic level game would in fact be easier to create than the current Panther Games engine as a lot of things that come into play on the tactical level (LOS, LOF, FUP's) aren't needed in a strategic level game.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

ORIGINAL: SeaMonkey
Time to evolve this excellent engine to the more operational-strategic scale and develop the PBEM aspects. It would serve to attract another genre of wargamers and indeed could prove to be the marketing "Coup de Grace" the Panther boys deserve, especially Dave/Arjuna.