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Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:28 am
by marcusm
I mean a proper sequel.
Granted that he will remain a while in the Naval combat fold but after that.
Has he clearly stated that there will never be any sequels?
Just curious. I think TOAW is the best wargaming system ever and it can only be improved upon.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:01 am
by Veers
I think Ralph and James plan a TOAW IV already.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:04 am
by marcusm
Is Norm Koger involved in that?
If not, has he hinted what he plans to do after the naval games.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:03 am
by L`zard
Sorry, marcusm;
Norm is gone from Toaw, the king is dead.........
Long live the King!
Long Life to King Ralph! Huzzah!
Viva la Toad!
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:13 am
by JAMiAM
Norm has left the building.
Just over two years ago,
in this thread over at Gamesquad (then WarfareHQ), Norm passed the reins over to Matrix, and washed his hands of TOAW. His work on 1.07, which was turned over to us, was Norm's
swan song, with respect to TOAW.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:57 pm
by marcusm
Ah. Good to hear that he's still active. Naval combat was never my thing but I think
it's great that he tries new wargame types.
Anyone heard anything more about "Project Ivan"?
I will of course buy TOAW4 when it comes out btw.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:53 pm
by Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: marcusm
I mean a proper sequel.
Granted that he will remain a while in the Naval combat fold but after that.
Has he clearly stated that there will never be any sequels?
Just curious. I think TOAW is the best wargaming system ever and it can only be improved upon.
Norm Koger is doing some sort of a TOAW in 3D, working name IVAN.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:16 pm
by marcusm
Maybe an update on Red Thunder? We can only hope.
Fictional WP vs NATO is far more interesting modern combat than any desert crap.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:45 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: marcusm
I mean a proper sequel.
Granted that he will remain a while in the Naval combat fold but after that.
Has he clearly stated that there will never be any sequels?
Just curious. I think TOAW is the best wargaming system ever and it can only be improved upon.
Erm, just a question: If TOAW is the "best wargaming system ever", how would it be possible to improve upon it?
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:02 pm
by marcusm
Obivously to make it even better. It's like a BMW, being the
best car doesn't stop them from developing new models every eyar.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:25 pm
by DuckofTindalos
And they get steadily worse and worse. I say leave TOAW the hell alone.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:56 pm
by Veers
ORIGINAL: Terminus
And they get steadily worse and worse. I say leave TOAW the hell alone.
Unortunately, TOAW, while being the best wargame ever, has serious flaws and could use the improvement. I certainyl hope Ralph, James, and company don't "leave (it) the hell alone".
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:19 pm
by Jeff Norton
Gosh, thanks for your glittering nuggets of insight....
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:35 pm
by macgregor
ORIGINAL: Terminus
And they get steadily worse and worse. I say leave TOAW the hell alone.
Go back to your TOAW 1 and leave
us alone then! You've got the TOAW you want.If you're happy with it then why are you even here? If that's the case, let's just stop developing new wargames altogether. We'll all just buy WitP. Who needs those other scenarios anyway. Give me a break! TOAW is the only wargame with ability to morph into representing any conflict. All I want is for the frickin naval combat to be represented in a playable fashion. Is that too frickin much?? For years the answer has been a resounding yes. TOAW is a land game, is like saying the earth is flat.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:30 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: macgregor
ORIGINAL: Terminus
And they get steadily worse and worse. I say leave TOAW the hell alone.
Go back to your TOAW 1 and leave
us alone then! You've got the TOAW you want.If you're happy with it then why are you even here? If that's the case, let's just stop developing new wargames altogether. We'll all just buy WitP. Who needs those other scenarios anyway. Give me a break! TOAW is the only wargame with ability to morph into representing any conflict. All I want is for the frickin naval combat to be represented in a playable fashion. Is that too frickin much?? For years the answer has been a resounding yes. TOAW is a land game, is like saying the earth is flat.
Maybe you should take a chill pill. I have played TOAW from day one, up to and including the current Matrix-published version. I see no reason to tamper anymore with it.
SO SHUT THE F*CK UP!
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:44 pm
by Jeff Norton
Practice what you preach - that 24pt tantrum is sooo intellectual....
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:00 pm
by macgregor
Wait a minute. You bought the Matrix version after being satisfied with TOAW 1 from "day 1"? (which it seems you're using to justify acting like a complete imbecile?)Only to find the versions getting successively worse? I'm confused, at what point do these versions get worse? Or were you an imbecile to continue buying them.
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:26 pm
by marcinj.2008
May the Spirit of Christmas bring you Peace,
The Gladness of Christmas give you hope
The Warmth of Christmas grant you Love
MJ
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:50 pm
by marcusm
Well on the bright side, this forum was a tad too quiet
.
Best wargame should have the most active forum imho. I concider the break between 2 and 3
a break nothing more. As long as Matrixgames supports this game I will have it on my hd(s).
RE: Chance of Norm Koger doing a sequel?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:07 am
by sPzAbt653
I think the Earth is flat, and the oceans were put there to make us think we can sail around it (if the sea monsters don't get us).