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Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:24 pm
by Long Lance
Been off from UV since years, no played the May 1942 Camapign for Japan.

It's around Oct 25th, everything runs very well, and I'm fighting the battle of the battles
at Noumea. I had 3 Bombardment TFs around, with 1 respectively 2 Kongo class BBs,
some CAs and DDs, 15 ships each. So I could bombard Noumea every turn.

All BBs have some 10-15 % Sysdamage. After Combat resolution, 2 BBs have
disappeared. They have been teleported to Japan, some 70 days delay!?[&:][:@][X(]
I mean, wtf, how comes? No message, no nothing. Teleported back to Japan
from Noumea...

Is this a bug? Or may ships be withdrawn by 'High Command'?

I know the game will be won on Jan 1st anyway, but I simply want this base, at any
cost.

Any Ideas?


Thanks in advance


RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:29 am
by DEB
ORIGINAL: Long Lance

After Combat resolution, 2 BBs have
disappeared. They have been teleported to Japan, some 70 days delay!?[&:][:@][X(]
I mean, wtf, how comes? No message, no nothing. Teleported back to Japan
from Noumea...

Is this a bug? Or may ships be withdrawn by 'High Command'?

It's a "known" bug ( of sorts ). If I recall correctly, the ships have been withdrawn under some "High Command" preset order, but the game does not tell you when this occurs. It is a bug in that the ships ( as you put it ) teleport back to Tokyo rather than sail back!!

We may ( or may not ) get a further patch to clear up some minor errors ( of which the teleporting is one). Perhaps they can provide a " withdrawn" report also.

RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:14 am
by Long Lance
Ok. It would be also nice to have an idea, when which ships are withdrawn.

Thank you for your answering my question!

EDIT: Btw, even by teleporting my ships out of the combat zone
the AI had no chance to hold Noumea [;)]

RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:51 pm
by Long Lance
This BS isn't even reproduceable. Not easy at least.
Playtest against the AI a few days before the last two Konogs had been withdrawn leads
to the same results, they are always withdrawn (did two or three tries).

Later playtested H2H, all AFs, TFs etc. switched to passivity, trying with an old
Savegame (others deleted in the meantime), played some 20 turns, which should
be some ten more the required: nothing, 2 Kongo BBs still active.

I never realized this before, but also never tried to take Noumea before.
Is this a new 'feature' in 2.5?

RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:55 pm
by DEB
ORIGINAL: Long Lance

I never realized this before, but also never tried to take Noumea before.
Is this a new 'feature' in 2.5?

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here. Please "restate" and I will try and answer. By the way, what do you mean by H2H?

RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:44 pm
by Long Lance
ORIGINAL: DEB

ORIGINAL: Long Lance

I never realized this before, but also never tried to take Noumea before.
Is this a new 'feature' in 2.5?

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here. Please "restate" and I will try and answer. By the way, what do you mean by H2H?

Ok, in the first and second paragraph in short I only wanted to say that because of my playtesting-experience I'd claim it's not predictable what will happen to your ships, which ships will be withdrawn and when.

BS is short form of B@llsh@t
H2H -> I did playtesting Head to(2) Head.

Was this ship-withdrawal thing (aka BS [;)])also implemented in earlier versions?
Or is this new in 2.5?




RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:14 pm
by DEB
RE H2H , thought so. Non visable ( ie not F2F ) & non AI opponent.

Problem was noted before version 2.5 ( around 2.40 ).[:(]

I don't know why you get the variation re "Withdrawal" / "Non Withdrawal" of the BB's as noted in your testing. Perhaps it's to do with the AI command levels varying between AI & Non AI games, although I cannot see why this should be occurring.

I would not fuss too much re "recreating" it ( for Matrix? ). They are aware of the problem. As for fixing it......[>:]

RE: Jap BBs teleporting to Japan

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:20 pm
by Long Lance
Ok, thank you for the Info!

But I'm afraid we can't expecht another patch for UV...