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CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:31 am
by gwheelock
Well; we have restarted the CleverDevils game after losing & replacint Spain & Austria.
Here is the results of the bid. The actual start is awaiting the 1.01 patch release.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:24 am
by gwheelock
We're off ... "Now for wrath, now for ruin" (WHOSE wrath, WHOSE ruin only time will tell)
Looks like the Russians are eyeing the Baltic; but their fleet is stuck for
awhile ... "Excuse me Tzar; but WHY did you rename our flagship TITANIC?"

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:26 am
by gwheelock
And it appears that something is afoot on the Prussian/Russian boarder (at least from the RUSSIAN side ... Prussia is a bit busy)

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:29 am
by gwheelock
There also appears to be something stirring in the far east.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:32 am
by gwheelock
... And the Grand Vizir has been listening to his advisors talk about the
magic properties of MUMMY DUST again ...

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:34 am
by gwheelock
... The Austrians are taking advantage of the Franco-Prussian war to
take a long midwinter stretccch...

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:41 am
by gwheelock
.... while on the main front; 3 Prussian armies with a total of 6 corp bravely
face down 2 French armies with a total of 8 corp.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:45 am
by gwheelock
On the Atlantic Seaboard; a familier face-off.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:51 am
by gwheelock
while the Spanish seem to be planning a Mediterranian cruise.
I hope their cruise ship has a Tennis court.
I'm sure the British will be willing to coordinate the long distance swim (back to shore) competition ...

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:55 am
by AresMars
gwheelock - Please note that any of your screenshots showing French Corps _MAY_ be revealing intelligence about which Corps are placed where. ie. XII Corp is in Lorient
Just a friendly FYI....
ADDED:
gwheelcock, I was just pointing it out so that you where aware of a possible secuity leak in your enjoyable AARs. Keep them coming please! I just know the French need to keep their secrets to survive....I was not worried about you revealing the information of others...Just the 'important' French info... [:D]
Vive la France!
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:31 pm
by isandlwana
They also seem to show strength of several forces not otherwise revealed to the players[:D]
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:13 pm
by gwheelock
I did mess up with the one corp that AresMars noticed; but I belive that the only places that
shows force info are for either Depots or Cossacks - both of which are public.
(Since I am playing France in this game; the only private factors that I CAN
see are French & I didn't have any of those corp selected to show details)
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:59 am
by trw2264
Spain is just conducting joint manuvers.
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:55 am
by ess1
Thank you for yet another AAR. Your taking the time and trouble to do so is much appreciated.
[:)]
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:49 am
by gwheelock
Highlights (or Lowlights - depending on perspective) from January 1805:
France DOWs Leige; Austria gets control;
France DOWs Savoy; Britain gets control;
Spain DOW's Portugul; Britain gets control;
Prussia DOWs Mecklenberg; Britain get control;
Prussia DOWs Wurzberg; France gets control;
Prussia DOWs S. Pommeramia; France gets control;
Turkey DOWs Egypt; Britain gets control;
Russia DOWs Circassia; Turkey gets control;
Russia DOWs Chechnya; Spain gets control;
Austria DOWs Romagna; Spain gets control;
Numerous alliance attemps - all fail
Spain plans seaborne invasion of Portugul; 6 fleets in Cartegena + corp;
Britain moves first in Naval; blockades "Spanish Armada" with Portugese.
Spain does breakout; killing 14 Portugese; losing 2 Light ships.
Turkey Attempts breakin in Egypt - unsuccessful.
Russia moves into Circassia & Chechnya
Austria moves into Romagna; no seige attempted.
Prussia successfully beseiges Mecklenberg & S. Pom.; unsuccessfully beseiges Wurzberg.
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:41 pm
by gwheelock
More results: Spain successfully breaks into Lisbon; defeating GB controlled Portuguese while losing 1 factor.
France makes successful breakin on Lille; unsucessful on Savoy.
Napoleon & 3 corp attack Brunswick & 1 corp in Area148 (between Magdeberg & Berlin
Chit selections : Outflank vs Defend; end result French win; French loss 0; Prussian loss 14I 1C
(Yes; I know this reveals strategic info. I consider battle results public)

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:48 pm
by gwheelock
Murat & 1 corp attack 1 Prussian corp (no leader) in Lubeck
Chits are Assault vs Counter Attack
losses are 1 Fr I; 5 Prussian I (elimination);
breakin was successful eliminating 1 more Prussian I
---------------
Massena & 1 French corp attack Hohenloe & 1 Prussian corp in Wurzberg
Chits are Echelon vs Withdraw (successful); no combat.
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:13 pm
by delatbabel
Prussia,
You cannot sustain this. The only way to beat France (especially early) is via attrition. You have to keep your army in big stacks, and ignore the minors. Why are you declaring war on minors when France started at war with you? Let France do the DoWs and spend the PPs. Why has Hohenloe stacked with 1 corps? He should be stacked with 4 at least. You have the ideal opportunity to hit Massena with his one corps, but you need to hit him hard. Stay away from Napoleon.
Austria,
Nero fiddled while Rome burned. What game are you playing? Who do you think is going to be next after France wallops Prussia? The combined *Austrian and Prussian* armies can beat the French, early in the game. Not if they aren't combined, though.
Sorry about the kibbitzing, it just pains me to see the central powers played so badly.
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:19 am
by gwheelock
ORIGINAL: delatbabel
Prussia,
You cannot sustain this. The only way to beat France (especially early) is via attrition. You have to keep your army in big stacks, and ignore the minors. Why are you declaring war on minors when France started at war with you? Let France do the DoWs and spend the PPs. Why has Hohenloe stacked with 1 corps? He should be stacked with 4 at least. You have the ideal opportunity to hit Massena with his one corps, but you need to hit him hard. Stay away from Napoleon.
Austria,
Nero fiddled while Rome burned. What game are you playing? Who do you think is going to be next after France wallops Prussia? The combined *Austrian and Prussian* armies can beat the French, early in the game. Not if they aren't combined, though.
Sorry about the kibbitzing, it just pains me to see the central powers played so badly.
Um a couple of CORRECTIONS:
a) France didn't start at war with Prussia; PRUSSIA started at war with France
b) Hohenloe was stacked with 1 corp because he tried to attack & beseige Wurzberg
c) Massena wasn't stacked with 1 corp during the Prussian turn; he was stacked with 4
(the reason he only attacked with 1 is that its just too @#$@#$ expensive to move
4 corp 2 spaces from the nearest depot in winter [ESP. 1805 - only $32 to start]

)
d) Massena WILL NOT be stacked with only 1 corp by the time the Prussian turn
comes around again. (I DO NOT play FRANCE "badly" [:'(])
e) It becomes very hard to stay away from Nappy if he is sitting on your capitol :
"My enemy cannot help but engage me; for I attack a position which he must
succor" - Sun Tzu
f) The combined Prussian & Austrian armies >MAY< be able to beat France; much
depends on chit selections & die rolls. (& I'm not sure; but the changes to combined
movement may make this harder to pull off)
RE: CleverDevils2 AAR
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:23 am
by Soapy Frog
Agreed that is a godawful Prussian setup... even the historic Prussians did not arrange themselves quite so poorly
Hehe sorry but yeah Del is right, concentrate your army when you are under threat, especially vs France.
gwheelock is on his way to dominating Europe
Edit: regarding point f) I should say that in regular EiA Prussia and Austria combined have a roughly 40% chance of beating France off the starting block if they are WELL played, however EiANW is really too different from EiA to make good predictions. The Prussian player's strategy in this case is doomed to failure, unless he is unbeleivably lucky; even if Austria and Russia join right now, the Prussian army SHOULD be eviscerated before they can bring their forces to bear.