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Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:31 am
by GaryChildress
Will this plane be in AE? SOC-3A Seagull aboard CVE Long Island 1941.
It looks like CVE Long Island operated them as late as May 1942, a month after the ship appears on map in CHS.
EDIT: woops something happed to linked pic. Just uploaded to Matrix forums. Sorry.
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:39 am
by wdolson
The SOC has been in WitP from the begining. Though only the float plane version aboard cruisers.
The carrier capable version was only used in training and secondary duties and never saw combat. It doesn't really fit within the scope of the game. The Navy had gobs of SNJs (Navy version of the AT-6) too, but they aren't in the game either.
Bill
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:08 pm
by Terminus
However, there'll be plenty of space to put it into a mod...
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:00 am
by m10bob
I suppose somebody (T) will say this baby should stay out, just because there were only 2 of them?
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:55 am
by Terminus
No, that's not why it should stay out...[:D][;)]
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:04 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus
No, that's not why it should stay out...[:D][;)]
It is NOT ugly![:@]
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:08 pm
by Terminus
[:'(][;)]
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:14 pm
by m10bob
(Am wondering who was strong enough to aim that 37mm in the nose?)
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:18 pm
by witpqs
It's actually quite a handsome plane. But, for those of us not in the know, what is it? [:)]
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:21 pm
by Terminus
The B-19, the bomber in Bob's avatar...
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:24 pm
by m10bob
Why..it is the culmination of all aviation prowess that ever existed in long range warplane design of the 1930's !..This is the magnificent Douglas B 19, intended as a long range bomber and armed with not only HMG's, but 2(TWO) 37mm cannon on swivel turret mounts!
She waited too long for engines strong enough to take her anywhere efficiently, and the technology of this plane was used in building the B 29, years later.
Here she is blowing up some dust.
(During the war, she was used as a transport, and had both radial and Allison inlines mounted on her at different times..
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:30 pm
by m10bob
Here she is as a transport during the war.
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:53 pm
by witpqs
What good would the 37mm's be? Shooting down other bombers? It seems doubtful they could hit a nimble fighter.
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:03 pm
by GaryChildress
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RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:08 pm
by GaryChildress
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus
No, that's not why it should stay out...[:D][;)]
It is NOT ugly![:@]
This is what I was trying to react to in the post above but forgot to include the quotes. God I love this forum!! This is my reason for waking up in the morning (at least while I'm unemployed and looking for a job)! [:D]
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:04 am
by afspret
Gee, how about adding the A-27 & , P-64 & P-66? 10 A-27s were in use in the PI during the opening days of the war. And the CAF also had some P-64s and 66s in use as well. These don't have to be included for stock games, it would actually be nice if they were just listed in the aircraft section (with a big fat 0 in the build column) in order to give those who build there own scenerios the option to include them.
I'm sure most are familiar with the P-64 & 66, but for those not familiar with the A-27 was a light ground attack aircraft that were intended for the Siamese AF (aka Thai AF). The order was seized and the a/c pressed into service by the USAAC.
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:18 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: afspret
Gee, how about adding the A-27 & , P-64 & P-66? 10 A-27s were in use in the PI during the opening days of the war. And the CAF also had some P-64s and 66s in use as well. These don't have to be included for stock games, it would actually be nice if they were just listed in the aircraft section (with a big fat 0 in the build column) in order to give those who build there own scenerios the option to include them.
I'm sure most are familiar with the P-64 & 66, but for those not familiar with the A-27 was a light ground attack aircraft that were intended for the Siamese AF (aka Thai AF). The order was seized and the a/c pressed into service by the USAAC.
Again, CHS has lots of this. Can't believe you have not tried it given your long term membership on the forums.
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:19 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: m10bob
I suppose somebody (T) will say this baby should stay out, just because there were only 2 of them?
This is an JFB game, don't forget. Only Japan gets to build what if types, and in numbers that outstrip the arsenal of democracy.[:-][8D]
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:12 pm
by mlees
However, there'll be plenty of space to put it into a mod.
In WiTP mk1, there is a hard code limit on the number of (5?) squadrons/formations allowed to be embarked on a flattop. The OP may run into problems trying to add search planes to a carriers air group, if that carrier already has reached it's limit.
Is that limit going to be in AE?
RE: Will this plane be in AE?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:42 pm
by AcePylut
Dude the B-19 is an ugly plane, sorry to say.