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Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:20 am
by Canoerebel
The thread about "Worst Movies Ever" reminded me of some stupid or out of place things I've seen in movies, including:
1) Thin Red Line - this awful movie about the Battle of Guadalcanal in '42 features at least one modern naval ship (was that a frigate sailing around the island?)
2) Bourne Identity - you have to be a bird lover to notice this one, but part of the action takes place in France on a snowy winter day. Background noise includes an eastern wood pewee - a western hemishphere, warm-weather-only species. It would be like featuring a polar bear in Rat Patrol.
3) Where Eagles Dare - great movie, and I'm not actually sure about this one, but it includes a helicopter. Did the Gestapo (or anyone else for that matter) have helicopters during WWII?
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:34 pm
by Mobeer
From "MomotarĂ´: Umi no shinpei". In the middle of a battle, a British soldier calls out for a taxi.
This was a Japanese propaganda film made in 1945, and the creators had no English speakers available (at this point, they later coerce a POW). To get sounds of battle in English, they listened to old recordings in English and copied any sections that involved shouting, hence the call for a taxi.
I think it occurs 3:30 into this
Youtube clip.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:40 pm
by JudgeDredd
What about a Londoner in charge of the defence of Stalingrad (Enemy at the Gates)...His lack of even a smidgeon of an attempt at a Russian accent bowled me over.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:51 pm
by Terminus
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The thread about "Worst Movies Ever" reminded me of some stupid or out of place things I've seen in movies, including:
1) Thin Red Line - this awful movie about the Battle of Guadalcanal in '42 features at least one modern naval ship (was that a frigate sailing around the island?)
2) Bourne Identity - you have to be a bird lover to notice this one, but part of the action takes place in France on a snowy winter day. Background noise includes an eastern wood pewee - a western hemishphere, warm-weather-only species. It would be like featuring a polar bear in Rat Patrol.
3) Where Eagles Dare - great movie, and I'm not actually sure about this one, but it includes a helicopter. Did the Gestapo (or anyone else for that matter) have helicopters during WWII?
Well, the Germans DID fly a few helicopters before and during the war, but no Bell 47's...[:D]
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:52 pm
by Terminus
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd
What about a Londoner in charge of the defence of Stalingrad (Enemy at the Gates)...His lack of even a smidgeon of an attempt at a Russian accent bowled me over.
Well, it WAS Bob Hoskins... He couldn't lose his accent if he tried...[:D]
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:10 am
by Doggie
Yes Hanna Reich did fly a twin rotor German helicopter indoors during an exhibition, but there were no helicopters on operational status with the Luftwaffe.
The American Army Air Corps did use the Sikorsky R-4 helicopter in Burma starting in 1944.
Seen here in pre war markings:

RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:57 am
by Ursa MAior
The Spruances in Pearl Harbor.
Edit
I mean the exploding Spruances 3 moored alongsided IIRC.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:18 am
by JudgeDredd
ORIGINAL: Terminus
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The thread about "Worst Movies Ever" reminded me of some stupid or out of place things I've seen in movies, including:
1) Thin Red Line - this awful movie about the Battle of Guadalcanal in '42 features at least one modern naval ship (was that a frigate sailing around the island?)
2) Bourne Identity - you have to be a bird lover to notice this one, but part of the action takes place in France on a snowy winter day. Background noise includes an eastern wood pewee - a western hemishphere, warm-weather-only species. It would be like featuring a polar bear in Rat Patrol.
3) Where Eagles Dare - great movie, and I'm not actually sure about this one, but it includes a helicopter. Did the Gestapo (or anyone else for that matter) have helicopters during WWII?
Well, the Germans DID fly a few helicopters before and during the war, but no Bell 47's...[:D]
My bold....lol @ that...that takes watching a film into a whole new arena! Come one...someone seriously heard a bird on a film (a film about fighting and things exploding and crashing no less) and realised that bird make, model and it's natural habitat not being the one in the film!!! OMG!
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:38 am
by Twotribes
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The thread about "Worst Movies Ever" reminded me of some stupid or out of place things I've seen in movies, including:
1) Thin Red Line - this awful movie about the Battle of Guadalcanal in '42 features at least one modern naval ship (was that a frigate sailing around the island?)
2) Bourne Identity - you have to be a bird lover to notice this one, but part of the action takes place in France on a snowy winter day. Background noise includes an eastern wood pewee - a western hemishphere, warm-weather-only species. It would be like featuring a polar bear in Rat Patrol.
3) Where Eagles Dare - great movie, and I'm not actually sure about this one, but it includes a helicopter. Did the Gestapo (or anyone else for that matter) have helicopters during WWII?
The Germans had a helicopter in WW2. Big ugly thing as I recall.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:52 pm
by SemperAugustus
About 45 German Flettner Fl 282 Kolibri were produced between 1942 and 1945
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:38 pm
by Canoerebel
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My bold....lol @ that...that takes watching a film into a whole new arena! Come one...someone seriously heard a bird on a film (a film about fighting and things exploding and crashing no less) and realised that bird make, model and it's natural habitat not being the one in the film!!! OMG!
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It was one of many times I've had that experience - I've heard out of place bird calls in many movies and on radio programs and commercials. I don't think it's unusual, at least for birdwatchers, since birdwatching is such an auditory activity. Ornithologist Roger Tory Peterson noted that birdwatching is 90% auditory for experienced birders. Since bird "watching" is mostly bird "hearing," many birders notice the out of place calls.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:01 pm
by JudgeDredd
Well I never...seriously. That is just the strangest thing...but in a good way. I would never have thought that anyone, in a million years, would've heard bird song in a movie and deduced the bird wasn't from that region!
But if it's 90% auditory, why is it called bird watching? Nevermind...just being "funny" [;)]
Anyway, that is a fact I know now...
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:12 pm
by Goblin
Out of place things in a movie?'
How about Windtalkers entire script? [:'(]
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:03 pm
by Mobius
There is the 3:10 to Yuma said to be 3-5 years after the Civil War and are using Winchester 1873 repeating rifles. Also railroad a Yuma and Yuma prison not completed until 1876.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:20 pm
by Terminus
ORIGINAL: Goblin
Out of place things in a movie?'
How about Windtalkers entire script? [:'(]
Windtalkers had a script???
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:55 pm
by anarchyintheuk
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd
What about a Londoner in charge of the defence of Stalingrad (Enemy at the Gates)...His lack of even a smidgeon of an attempt at a Russian accent bowled me over.
I appreciate it when an actor knows he can't do an accent and doesn't try. The opposite, of course, being Costner.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:55 pm
by Toby42
How about Robert Shaw playing George Custer!!! Especially in a perfectly rotten movie....
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:59 pm
by marcusm
Thin Red Line is not awful. It's in fact one of the few warmovies I can watch.
Nothing wrong with adding some brain into a movie

. Apparently the pros(Oscar nominations) thought the same

.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:10 pm
by Terminus
Brain? What "brain" was added to Thin Red Line? It was a piece of unalloyed garbage. Just awful.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:15 pm
by marcusm
ORIGINAL: Terminus
Brain? What "brain" was added to Thin Red Line? It was a piece of unalloyed garbage. Just awful.
It made the viewer think. That explains the brain part(and why some might not like it).
And you are clearly in the minority.
User Rating on IMDB(43000 votes): 7.4/10.
An example of what I am talking about (written by someone who understands Cinema)
This film is three hours of movie poetry. "Saving Private Ryan," though brilliantly made, is a jingoistic cartoon by comparison. "Thin Red Line" follows a company of American rifleman brought in to consolidate the Allied grip on the Pacific island of Guadalcanal in 1942 in the face of Japanese invasion, but the place could be just about anywhere where war is fought.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120863/
Personally I think people who get hung up on stuff like "modern ships" should stick to watching documentaries. A movie should tell a story as well as it can. If it means using modern ships then that what it takes. Better a modern ship than some crap CGI like Pearl Harbor. Even so, Thin Red Line is probably THE most accurate description of a single operation ever made, nevermind the poetic sections, they are there to add content. No sane person could watch the movie otherwise.
Compare this with Tali Ihantala. A recent war movie that tried the "orgy in equipment detail" approach. Got totally slammed by newspaper reviews (1/5 in Metro here). Shows that without any real content wont be helped by accurate equipment usage.