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Is there an inconsistency in the build times for various units?

If you start a unit during the March economic phase, is the April reinforcement phase (i.e. almost immediately) one month? Or is that zero months, and one month would be May?

I ask because the game doesn't seem to subscribe to either theory consistently.

Unless I've mis-observed, infantry, cavalry, and guards are built under theory 1. If you build in March, infantry are ready in June, cavalry in August, guards in September.

But militia and ships seem to be built under theory 2. I'm not positive about the militia, but I think if you build it in March you get it in May. And the ships are placed after economic phases instead of at the beginning of eco. phase months, even though their build times are divisible by 3.

Nathan Rose

Ships are definitely theory 2, and I'm pretty sure that's incorrect.  I haven't paid much attention to Militia...

This is how it's supposed to be according to the rules and so far I havent noticed anything unexpected
 
Type        Dec*    Jan   Feb   Mar*   Apr   May   Jun*  Jul   Aug   Sep*   Okt   Nov   Dec*

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Mil           Built       x
Inf           Built                       x
Cav         Built                                          x
Grd          Built                                                  x
Art          Built                                                  x
Tr           Built                                                   x
Lgt          Built                                                                                                          x
Hvy         Built                                                   x2

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*= eco phase month
x= month ready for placement
x2=month ready for placement the 2nd year after building

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Militia have always arrived as expected in my games not sure about ships.

They should all be consistent with Zaquex's post.

OK, so you're saying theory 1 is correct.

I just started a game and built one of each thing as Russia in March 1805. The land units are built according to theory 1. (I was wrong about militia; I don't use it much, but I had noticed that when the AI is desperate a bunch of new corps seem to appear in months like May and August, so assumed those were new militia--anyone else notice that? I'll have to watch more carefully and see what it's doing.)

In this savefile, though, you can see that the ships are indeed built according to theory 2--ready in Oct. 1805, Apr. 1806 and Oct. 1806.

Offhand, is there a good reason why the game doesn't start with an Economic Phase?  Major Powers have money in January but can't build anything until March.  Are all scenarios going to be this way?  Could we consider a starting Economic Phase as an option?? 

The main game reason is that the Econ phase is part of DECEMBER (of 1804 in the case you
mentioned) & part way thru the turn as well & this would probably be rather hard/messy to code.
 
I did play a f2f game doing the way that you mentioned - started in the Econ phase (econ
phase replaced all saved $/mp) - it tended to make things a bit more pro-French because
France then had more money to move around & grab minors.  It also got the French
guard corp filled up about 3 months earler.