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Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:31 pm
by John 3rd
Hi Forum.

I am debating on letting my Japanese CV air groups to changeover from the 1/3 F, 1/3 DB, 1/3 TB composition. What do people think about that? I HATE losing those Kates/Jills but can always use more Fighters.

If I do go with the change all I have to do is be disbanded in a Port, have plenty of supply, and set my Daitai to accept replacements--Right?


RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:38 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Er, that composition happens by itself. Nothing you can do about it.

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:50 pm
by Mike Solli
True, you never know when or if that will happen.  I have a carrier in Apr 43 that still has the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3.  It still hasn't converted. [8|]

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:55 pm
by Mynok

I must have missed something somewhere. The group ratios change at some point? [&:]

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:06 pm
by John 3rd
Well I am in March 1943 with Canoerebel and NONE of my CV Air Groups have changed!  Until about 10 days ago nearly all of my CVs were in Tokyo/Osaka...
 
Mynok--They change from the 1/3--1/3--1/3 to 3/8--3/8--2/8 or, more simply, in a 72 plane CV from 21--21--21 to 27--27--18.
 

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:21 pm
by rominet
ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Well I am in March 1943 with Canoerebel and NONE of my CV Air Groups have changed!  Until about 10 days ago nearly all of my CVs were in Tokyo/Osaka...

Mynok--They change from the 1/3--1/3--1/3 to 3/8--3/8--2/8 or, more simply, in a 72 plane CV from 21--21--21 to 27--27--18.

Isn't it rather 24-24-24 to 27-27-18? (for a CV with 72 planes)
and 21-21-21 to 24-24-15? (for a CV with 63 planes)
but i don't know when it happens[&:]

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:16 am
by John 3rd
Color me silly!  [X(][X(][X(]
 
I needed another beer to catch that mistake!  Must have been thinking of Hiryu/Soryu and not the larger flattops...

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:32 am
by okami
It is just my opinion but from a performance view I would want more Kates not less.

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:15 am
by Mike Solli
I've had some of my Japanese carriers do odd things. 
 
27-24-18 Akagi
23-24-21 Soryu
23-23-15 Hiryu
24-24-24 Shokaku
24-27-18 Zuikaku
 
This is in Apr 43, stock.

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:26 pm
by Dino
If I do go with the change all I have to do is be disbanded in a Port, have plenty of supply, and set my Daitai to accept replacements--Right?

If the mechanics are the same as for Allies, then you need a Command HQ affiliated with that port (base) to be present (e.g. Home Defense HQ).


RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:45 pm
by rominet
He, they are 2 "Sylvester" on this forum

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:09 pm
by Dino
ORIGINAL: rominet

He, they are 2 "Sylvester" on this forum

Oh, goodie...I don't need to fear Pepe Le Phew any more...[:D]


RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:22 pm
by John 3rd
I had my CVs upgrading and disbanded in Toyko and Osaka for quite a while before they left and their Air Groups NEVER changed. 
 
I love the Kates as well... 

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:54 pm
by ny59giants
I hate the Kates [:@] ...the less the better. [:D]

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:24 pm
by John 3rd
I do have to admit that I have thought about pulling a DB Daitai off of one the 72 plane Japanese CVs and replacing it with a CV Capable Torpedo Daitai.  Imagine:  24 Zero and 48 Kates!  That would be quite fun to do.  Wonder if that is gamey?
 

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:18 am
by ny59giants
Not gamey, IMO. Just don't want to be on the receiving end of it. [:D]

RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:13 pm
by Dino
ORIGINAL: John 3rd

I had my CVs upgrading and disbanded in Toyko and Osaka for quite a while before they left and their Air Groups NEVER changed.

I love the Kates as well...

Did you have Home Defense Force HQ present in either Tokyo or Osaka?

BTW, the trigger date (according to manual [8|]) is July 1st 1942.


RE: Air Group Upgrade

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:49 am
by John 3rd
I did have everything in place at Tokyo as well as HQ units in Osaka.  Didn't get the upgrade...
 
I have decided that CV Akagi or Kaga is going to be transformed into a Kate CV:  24 A6M3a and 51 Kates...
 
EVIL!